I recently hunted the 2nd gun season for whitetails in Illinois thru an outfitter. I hunt mostly DIY but thought I would try a guided hunt for WT as I have yet to take a big one and the last few years haven't had a lot of time to hunt. The outfitter and guide were good people but I was a little turned off when the guide on the first morning out was talking about how he works for tips, etc... when all he had to do was drop me off and pick me up in the evening as I sat all day. I didn't kill anything so there was no need to skin/cape the animal so why is he deserving of much of a tip for a 3 day hunt? Also in the midwest beware as the cost outfitters pay to lease land is so high they have to have hunters on their properties for bow, gun, muzzleloder etc.. I think their properties get a little overhunted. 3 guys of 9 took deer over 125 but I thought that could have been better. I saw 1 shooter in 3 days. Not to whine just my 2 cents.