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We had my friend from Texas up again this year, and hunted the opening day of a general over-the-counter unit. He has taken a 5 point and a 6 point previously. Shot this 7x7, 373" gross, 357" net bull and he decided he can probably quit happy now. Pic is my oldest son with the bull. He was so strong, you could smell him a hundred yards away. I went back in a couple days later and shot one we could eat