When the rioting & looting subside there will be another disturbing event. This chit ain't gonna stop until after the election and only then if Biden wins, IMO.
Lyndon Johnson enjoyed his part , I remember him calling for 50 caliber machine guns , he didn’t care he was a belligerent drunk .right....but none of those Presidents enjoyed the hate and vitriol that this one does........will he get any support??
I agree Eel. But damn, he makes it so easy...Poor Trump. He's screwed no matter what he does. The media sees to that. They spin whatever he does.
NeMont, The curfews exist because protests during the day give rise to riots under the cover of night, and not necessarily by the same people. From what I can see, there was no violence taking place at the time of their removal, and a fair number of protesters were school girls, middle-aged women, etc.
I don't disagree with any of that. I just am not sure how one sorts out who is and who is not capable of violence giving the situation. AG Barr personally ordered the removal of protesters from Lafayette Square.
I am against the suppression of peaceful protesters exercising their right to voice their displeasure at government actions. I get a little confused over how one determines which is and which is not going to turn into an ugly violent confrontation.
I don't always buy the "poor Trump" line because he can't stop his mouth or his tweeter fingers from making himself an easy target.
Nemont
Its the same spot we find ourselves in with all our rights....how do we know which gun owners are going to go batchit crazy and shoot up the joint?
The hypocrisy, (not in reference to you, but many on this board and thread), is that they say, "well, the second is such and important right, we would rather see people shot up once in while than take away ANYONE'S second rights".
But, when it comes to protests, they say, "well, since we cant distinguish the protestors from the rioters, lets not worry about their FIRST amendment rights, lets just shoot them all with rubber bullets, impose curfews, tear gas them, and remove them from public places by force, to hell with their FIRST amendment rights".
Hypocrisy at its height...
Its the same spot we find ourselves in with all our rights....how do we know which gun owners are going to go batchit crazy and shoot up the joint?
The hypocrisy, (not in reference to you, but many on this board and thread), is that they say, "well, the second is such and important right, we would rather see people shot up once in while than take away ANYONE'S second rights".
But, when it comes to protests, they say, "well, since we cant distinguish the protestors from the rioters, lets not worry about their FIRST amendment rights, lets just shoot them all with rubber bullets, impose curfews, tear gas them, and remove them from public places by force, to hell with their FIRST amendment rights".
Hypocrisy at its height...
I talked to a friend of mine about this. He is, as he calls it "Black". His thoughts are that if the looters cause enough financial harm, by looting, vandalism, insurance claims, then the "people in charge" will impose change to save themselves money. His words, not mine. And not saying I agree with him.We need a shot of real truth in this country, right now. The police aren't all angels but the VAST, VAST, VAST majority do the right thing. Trump is flawed, he has rabbit ears and will always give into impulses to send out a blizzard of Tweets that don't do him any good except to play to his base, who truly care almost zero about what he does. But he is president and we cannot run a country this way, where even the mundane, the untrue, everything is equated to the President being responsible for it from covid 19 to racism to Americans being divided, all were present prior to the Trump presidency.
What are the demands of these protesters? I mean I can't figure out is how is a looting storing going to fix the killing of a black man by a white cop? Violence and riots are not legitimate protests compared to marching and demanding change.
Nemont
I talked to a friend of mine about this. He is, as he calls it "Black". His thoughts are that if the looters cause enough financial harm, by looting, vandalism, insurance claims, then the "people in charge" will impose change to save themselves money. His words, not mine. And not saying I agree with him.
14 trillion in reparations for the slavery we did to them , it wouldn’t help them it just make it worse.We need a shot of real truth in this country, right now. The police aren't all angels but the VAST, VAST, VAST majority do the right thing. Trump is flawed, he has rabbit ears and will always give into impulses to send out a blizzard of Tweets that don't do him any good except to play to his base, who truly care almost zero about what he does. But he is president and we cannot run a country this way, where even the mundane, the untrue, everything is equated to the President being responsible for it from covid 19 to racism to Americans being divided, all were present prior to the Trump presidency.
What are the demands of these protesters? I mean I can't figure out is how is a looting storing going to fix the killing of a black man by a white cop? Violence and riots are not legitimate protests compared to marching and demanding change.
Nemont
14 trillion in reparations for the slavery we did to them , it wouldn’t help them it just make it worse.
My family history goes back to Scotland, so the English should give me a lot of money, because of Long shanks, right....
protest all you want, BUT, like I said in another thread even the get away driver is charged with murder, if his buddy inside the bank kills someone. if your a peaceful protester you should get the heII out of there if rioting or violence starts.
find the organizers and follow the money, for all groups, not just antifa. then take those people to gitmo. as they are terrorists, remove the domestic from it and just consider them terrorists . I for one wouls love to see Sorros on a terrorist wanted list, or even better hi. in gitmo.
if CNN, MSNBC, or any other news (cough cough) wants to promote thier agenda give the protester 2 hours in prime time for free, and let them state thier case. then FOX can fact check the claims. see how many viewers they get while giving away free time.
I do believe this was a preplanned and the cop murdering the guy, was the opportunity they were waiting for. corona had about run out as far as its usefulness. and I also believe the next crises is planned and ready to go.
That is an interesting take on it, I have never heard of this idea. Not asking you specifically but some questions come to mind:
How effective has rioting been in getting social change in the past?
What is the percentage of the public that support looting and rioting as a way to end racism?
Flynn was a retired general not in the chain of command, kind of an Apples to Tuesday argument there, IMO.what General would want their decisions politicized and then be dragged in to Congress to be grilled by the collision dilution mob, after all they all see what happened to Flynn.