The story I got is all from guys that know a guy that know a guy that knows his brothers dogs cat kinda deal. I'm not going say everything I've heard because it could be totally wrong. I will say from from the story I got is that it's his first elk, he had dumb luck on his side, and it could have happened to anyone of us. And like I said before that could be wrong. The bull is a 6x7, wide and awesome main beams (over 60")! Wish I could post the pics I got and tell the story I was told but out of respect to the guy I'm not going to. Sorry. I hope he comes out with it at some point because I would like to know for sure myself.