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In the hearing today Adam Schiffforbrains accused Hur of political bias….thats hilarious coming from schiffforbrains.
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No he didn't lol. He refused to give up documents he had stored. To be clear THEY ARE BOTH GUILTY OF IT, but one gave them up the second he was asked, and one fought handing them back. This right here shows just how not objective you are and how little to take you seriously. Can't even admit orange dude did the exact same thing, only refused to give them back lol. Not a gray area here buddy.
Y'all are hilarious. Defending the orange clown doing the exact same thing and then refusing to give the files back. Just partisan hacks who won't just admit something as plain as day.
America's inflation rate is among the best recoveries since covid in the world. We have literally recovered better than the rest of the world. But keep pretending inflation is just an American thing and that we are worse off than the rest of the world (pst we're actually some of the most well off people in the world in regards to inflation right now).
As for like a lot of your other nonsense. You kinda gave up the ghost when you lamented Biden having documents but giving them right back when brought to his attention, vs defending the orange clown who did the same thing, yet refused to give them back when asked. Not a serious person to have any objective conversation with.
PS I've always heard from conservatives that America should be energy independent? Guess what everyone, we are for the first time in 40 years!!!! Celebrate! Oh your team isn't in control so it's bad?
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Never said Trump was good with having secret documents, I clearly stated "he has the right to top secret documents" big difference. Trump has a defense. He belived he had Presidential cleared the documents (not saying that is right but), what is the great white dope going to use for defense, that he is too senile and mentally unfit to stand trial.
You keep talking about animal crossing over highway and your great white dope don't even know what a Muley deer is.
What do you think is going to happen to the future of wildlife in the west when the Biden's green mandates force solar panels on hundreds of thousands of acres throughout the west. How about the windmills you ejoy the pristine view of the hills with 200 foot windmills.
But yes Biden did so much for wildlife crossings.
You must have agreed with the list of accomplishments that the great white dope has did at destroying everything this great country has stood for.
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Don’t forget Biden sharing top secret info with a ghost writer. Or that some of those documents, in 8 different locations which Chinese nationals had access to, were from when he was a senator. A senator can only get access to those in a secure scif, which he had to take out of there himself…..which is highly illegal. So yeah, don’t forget that.Never said Trump was good with having secret documents, I clearly stated "he has the right to top secret documents" big difference. Trump has a defense. He belived he had Presidential cleared the documents (not saying that is right but), what is the great white dope going to use for defense, that he is too senile and mentally unfit to stand trial.
You keep talking about animal crossing over highway and your great white dope don't even know what a Muley deer is.
What do you think is going to happen to the future of wildlife in the west when the Biden's green mandates force solar panels on hundreds of thousands of acres throughout the west. How about the windmills you ejoy the pristine view of the hills with 200 foot windmills.
But yes Biden did so much for wildlife crossings.
You must have agreed with the list of accomplishments that the great white dope has did at destroying everything this great country has stood for.
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First off, you absolutely did try to defend your orange God real quick.Never said Trump was good with having secret documents, I clearly stated "he has the right to top secret documents" big difference. Trump has a defense. He belived he had Presidential cleared the documents (not saying that is right but), what is the great white dope going to use for defense, that he is too senile and mentally unfit to stand trial.
You keep talking about animal crossing over highway and your great white dope don't even know what a Muley deer is.
What do you think is going to happen to the future of wildlife in the west when the Biden's green mandates force solar panels on hundreds of thousands of acres throughout the west. How about the windmills you ejoy the pristine view of the hills with 200 foot windmills.
But yes Biden did so much for wildlife crossings.
You must have agreed with the list of accomplishments that the great white dope has did at destroying everything this great country has stood for.
Secondly, I don’t care for windmills. Solar is good as long as it’s targeted for certain areas of land.
Third, the orange idiot couldn’t pick a mule deer off a page either. He’s not his son. He’s not a hunter, in any way shape or form lol.
Also yes. Stock market is at record highs, we are energy independent, and he passed the infrastructure bill that has benefitted your backyard in a bunch of ways.
Also, here are the well pads on the north side of the Book Cliffs. Tell me more about wildlife habitat.
Here’s a photo of SLC in the winter with the air that goes along with those well pads
“cLeAn EnErgY bAd” though
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Your F'N Buddy Joe Is Gonna Tell The Manufactures To Build 500,000 More Electric Cars!
Problem Fixed,Right?
F'N WRONG!
Problem Fixed,Right?
F'N WRONG!
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The FBI had to do ADDITIONAL searches. Seems the willful return thing is a myth as well.
The classified doc deal with Biden is a CYA thing anyway.
The FBI is afraid Trump kept documents related to
The FBI doesn't do additional searches if you willingly gave things back.
But the Biden deal was CYA for the FBI anyway.
They hit Trump because they are missing documents laying out the origination of crossfire hurricane. Trump having them would be pretty damaging TO THE FBI.
They must feel somewhat secure that he doesn't or the document charges would have disappeared.
Trump wanted to declassify them which of course would have ended the FBI and done real damage to CIA/NIH. Seems exposing the attempted coup of an American President by the 3 letter orgs is, bad.
We are still playing cloak and dagger and mop up from that attempted coup.
The coordinated effort across multiple jurisdictions is the attempt to shut Trump up, knowing full well, that if elected, he once again has the ability to declassify and fire huge deaths of them.
The intelligence agencies attempted a coup. Done similarly to the color revolutions they had instigated, IN UKRAINE.
The Biden part is just a smokescreen of "equality". Biden had to let it happen. His name is tied to the coup as well. Obama knew.
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Damn indians and their powerstrokes
'It's not a new problem': Looking back at the 'untold' history of Utah air quality
Utah's concerns over air quality aren't new. They almost go as far back as the beginning of the pioneer settlement in the 1800s, and there's evidence that even predates that.
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Funny how AGAIN Oneye talks out of both sides of his azz.
Last time I was in Richfield, they still are burning not just wood, but coal. They don't do emission testing. There's zero public transportation. I doubt he drives electric vehicles.
Yet, he lives there, where none of the things he preaches about can be found.
It's almost, like always, he's full of chit
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Well said Hoss, pretty spot on. All this **** with Biden is just cover because they’ve obviously known about all of it for years. Obama/Rice have had it in their back pocket to use when needed. This is, like you said, just cover stories.
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The "most secure election in world history".
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well...you're optimistic .....
It would help that air on a local level if more cars along the Wasatch Front were electric yes. 100%
I switched to natural gas from wood years ago. And I'm all for fazing out burning of coal and wood for heat yes. Most people are happy to do it and clean up the air when given the incentive. Not really sure how this proves I'm full of chit. The air along the Wasatch Front speaks for itself. You people want to deny reality so bad. I really don't know why some of you try to defend dirty air so much. You breathe it. Nearly all the improvements made along the Wasatch Front have been due to that evil EPA and federal government mandating the state clean it up. The state doesn't do near enough to clean up the air.Damn indians and their powerstrokes
'It's not a new problem': Looking back at the 'untold' history of Utah air quality
Utah's concerns over air quality aren't new. They almost go as far back as the beginning of the pioneer settlement in the 1800s, and there's evidence that even predates that.
Funny how AGAIN Oneye talks out of both sides of his azz.
Last time I was in Richfield, they still are burning not just wood, but coal. They don't do emission testing. There's zero public transportation. I doubt he drives electric vehicles.
Yet, he lives there, where none of the things he preaches about can be found.
It's almost, like always, he's full of chit
One cooperated, one didn't. It's not a hard distinction Hoss, but you're a hack so keep going.
Oh and yes I do purchase my fuel at gas stations that use tier 3 gasoline which burns far cleaner. Here is a website to find where they sell tier 3 fuel
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I just didn't want to think about "suicide"
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Don't sue Boeing......
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Boeing whistleblower found dead of a gunshot wound; didn't finish testimony against the company | Blaze Media
John Barnett, 62, worked for Boeing for 32 years. Prior to his retirement in 2017, he worked on the 787 Dreamliner as a quality manager at the Boeing factory in North Charleston, South Carolina. Barnett recently became involved in a whistleblower lawsuit against Boeing, blasting the company...
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The EPA can't mandate a change in geographic conditions that causes inversions here.
But yeah.
Your full of chit because like your politics, you advocate strongly for conditions and living standards that, don't affect you.
You don't seek out communities with public transportation and majority EV.
You live in Sevier county where there are none.
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Doesn't burn as clean as EV.
Why you buying gas? ..I mean we all know, just fun to watch you desperately spin
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The transcripts are out
Not the Chris Hayes spin.
Not only did Biden not cooperate fully(thus the FBI expanding their search to 5 other Biden areas), but also Biden disclosed classified info to his ghost writer(who doesn't have security clearance), which the writer then tried to info after the fact.
There's even tape of Biden saying so.
I guess it makes all Republican's liars and delusional too.
I don't think that's by my choice. The EPA has absolutly pushed, granted, and helped fund cleaning up of the air along the Wasatch Front and done waaaaaaaaaaay more than the state ever has. They fight for keeping the air dirty.
And I fully support more EV's on the road. Especially in areas like the Wasatch Front due to population density and geographical reasons to do more to clean up the air. I would be fine with statewide vehicle emission requirements.
I would like to see a lot more grants to convert to cleaner heating sources for peoples. Generally people will gladly to switch to cleaner sources of heat than burning wood or coal if they are given the chance to be helped with the cost of it. Wood burning should be entirely banned along the Wasatch Front From December through the end of February, and more grants should be available to help people cover the cost to convert to cleaner heating sources. These grants run out quickly every year, so there is high demand and willingness to do so. Know why? Because it's more convenient, and people can see the air every winter.
Natural gas is eons better than coal or wood. It puts 45% less carcinogens and carbon in the air than coal and 75% less than wood. That would be why hoss. I know, all you do is spew garbage all day, but we both know how much cleaner natural gas is than wood or coal for heating purposes.
For heat, the Wasatch Front would benefit from allowing electric or natural gas during the months of December through the end of February and banning wood and coal burning as a source for heating a home during those times. And yes you won't like this either but I'm supportive of the government helping to subsidize both the conversion to those sources for people and help certain people with their electric/gas bills through those months as well. Cleaner air is something the entire population benefits from, so we can all help achieve it.
I will point you back to the quotation of me in this post.
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So basically you agree.
You are very proud whatever, be it politics or EV in a place 200 miles from your house.
But, not pro enough for you to ditch the gas burner in your neighborhood.
For once, youre honest.
Let us know when you ditch your gas vehicles for EV so we know you're serious about your "beliefs"
There's a stark difference in Sevier County's air during the winter and going to the soup bowl that is the Wasatch Front. Local dealings with things right? But no I'm all for doing these things everywhere.
Isn't it wild that all the people who spend the most amount of time with him and all those people who chose to fill his cabinet hate the guy? Pence is about as conservative as they come, and spent more time with him than about anyone. But says "nope can't put my name on that this time." The party of one poor, pitiful self indulged, cowardly man.
He picks the best people right? About 90% of those he picked hate his guts and aren't endorsing him.
He picks the best people right? About 90% of those he picked hate his guts and aren't endorsing him.
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Hey Oneye!
I've Said For 40+ GAWD-DAMNED Years Now If They/Government Was Even 1/2 Serious About Cleaning The Air Up That Passenger Cars Could'of Been Running On Natural Gas Now For 40+ F'N Years!
Passenger Cars Don't Need 500+ Horsepower!
Yes There Is A Little Bit Of An Issue With Storage!
But What Did The Government Do To The People That Spent The Money For Conversions?
They Bent Them Over At The Pump Like No Other!
What A GAWD-DAMNED Disgrace!
I've Said For 40+ Years If They Were Serious About Cleaning The Atmosphere Up Our Coal Powered Plants Could Of Been Converted To Natural Gas!
How Many Here In DRATville Have Been Converted Smart Guy?
Then To Top All Evils Off!
We Let CHINA Pollute Like No Other Because We Can't Do It Here!
WAFJ!
Last I Knew This World Still Spins!
Am I Right Or Wrong?
Gonna Clue You In On Something!
With This JOKER That You're So F'N Proud Of Trying To Run This Country Has Done Way More Damage To This Country Than The Last 3 Presidents Combined Ever Did!
I've Said For 40+ GAWD-DAMNED Years Now If They/Government Was Even 1/2 Serious About Cleaning The Air Up That Passenger Cars Could'of Been Running On Natural Gas Now For 40+ F'N Years!
Passenger Cars Don't Need 500+ Horsepower!
Yes There Is A Little Bit Of An Issue With Storage!
But What Did The Government Do To The People That Spent The Money For Conversions?
They Bent Them Over At The Pump Like No Other!
What A GAWD-DAMNED Disgrace!
I've Said For 40+ Years If They Were Serious About Cleaning The Atmosphere Up Our Coal Powered Plants Could Of Been Converted To Natural Gas!
How Many Here In DRATville Have Been Converted Smart Guy?
Then To Top All Evils Off!
We Let CHINA Pollute Like No Other Because We Can't Do It Here!
WAFJ!
Last I Knew This World Still Spins!
Am I Right Or Wrong?
Gonna Clue You In On Something!
With This JOKER That You're So F'N Proud Of Trying To Run This Country Has Done Way More Damage To This Country Than The Last 3 Presidents Combined Ever Did!
More unhinged ramblings with a capital at the start of every word. Yeah. I’m taking you really seriously elkass.
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If Going In To Prisons & Letting Illegal NON-Americans Register To Vote Ain't One Of The Lowest Traits I've Ever Seen......................!
SWEET GEEZUS!
SWEET GEEZUS!
Anything Else Elkass? I'd Hate For You Not To Get It All Out Buddy.
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Tell Me More, Tell Me More
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I Need To STFOOTPBS!
But I Can't Help But Chime In Once In A While!
But I Can't Help But Chime In Once In A While!
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Hey Hossy!
These Types When Truth Be Known Pollute More Than Most!
They Just Don't Want Anybody-else Doing It!
These Types When Truth Be Known Pollute More Than Most!
They Just Don't Want Anybody-else Doing It!
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You Got A Pic Of Your PRIUS Oneye?
Nope. I’m not. But clearly you can’t read.
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Biden can just pardon himself, Along with the smartest guy he knows, Hunter, brother Jim and the rest of the gamg. The whole Biden crime family taking money from foreign countries. China, Ukraine just to name two.
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Which EV do you own? I haven't read about that
When GM comes out with an EV truck I'll look into it. As I said, I make the effort to use Tier 3 gasoline in all my vehicles, what do you do Hoss?
Donald Trump is such a POS he can't even get an endorsement from his former VP. Maybe it has something to do with the riot he incited that was chanting to "hang Mike Pence" at the capitol. All those fine people he hires sure end up hating the orange clown.
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I am.....only been 3 years.....
Damn... this is the year I heard?
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They Must Be More Wanted In KALI?
Wait Till You Hook Your Big Ole Almond Machine Behind It See How Far You Can Go With It Before It Peters Out!
Wait Till You Hook Your Big Ole Almond Machine Behind It See How Far You Can Go With It Before It Peters Out!
Yes, I'll be looking at them. Certainly.
I advocate for policies and incentives for people to be able to change for beneficial environmental advancements. Certainly. I don't think people should have to foot the costs of all those changes and there should be incentives to clean up the air we all breathe, and environment we all depend on. Cleaning up the air is doable, but yeah, it also costs money. Difference between yourself and I is, I think it's worth spending money to clean up air. You don't. Specifically government programs that incentivize cleaning it up. It's no different than farmers getting grants on top of grants to increase water use efficiency. The difference is you'd rather advocate for leaving flood irrigation and wasteful uses(in this case dirty uses) in place vs having the government fund programs that clean the air up or cause greater water efficiencies.
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What the #1 crop in Sevier County?
So.
A brief summary.
Oneye is the expert on race relations, from 95% white Sevier County.
He is the LBGT expert from 95% Sevier county
He is anti Mormon from 80% Mormon Sevier County
He is is pro EV, yet neither he nor his wife (I'll assume) own one.
Now, he is an "advocate" for clean air, in a county with no emissions standards, where both wood and coal are burned.
And now, he's anti flood irrigation sitting in a county that's #1 crop, is alfalfa.
So, as we all already know..
ONEYE is a raging phony. Despite all his "advocacy, wisdom, knowledge, belief", he hides is a county and town in which not one of the things he "supports" is done, nor will he get them done.
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But Biden Can Buy Oneye's Vote With Some Kinda BS Rebate On The EV!
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And after all of that fuel prices continue to rise, all while the US has record breaking oil production.
Oneye is a phony just like his leader Biden.
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But Oneyes Buddy Makes A Clip & Pretends He Doesn't Like The Price Of His Ice Cream!
Phony SOB!
Phony SOB!
Brought to you by the policies of Joe Biden, hope all those folks in St. George thank Joe for the infrastructure money it’s taking to do this:
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Building chip plants in America making us less reliant on places like Taiwan for our semi-conductors? Thanks Joe.
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St. George leaders ecstatic over $87 million grant to construct new I-15 underpasses, ease traffic woes
$87 million federal grant to construct two interstate underpasses will help connect St. George neighborhoods and reduce traffic congestion.
Building chip plants in America making us less reliant on places like Taiwan for our semi-conductors? Thanks Joe.
Biden announces major semiconductor deal with Intel to invest in four states
President Biden on Thursday will tout an agreement with Intel to provide up to $8.5 billion to bolster semiconductor manufacturing and expand the company’s operations in four states, the latest maj…
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I think it’s really really hilarious the dude living in Davis County Utah thinks he has a leg to stand on lol. Again Hoss. I support the grants to turn flood irrigation into more water efficient sprinklers. I support grants for people to change from wood burning stoves to gas or electric to clean up the air. I support grants to make electric vehicles more attainable to the average person to clean up the soup bowl you breathe every winter. You haven’t disproven what I believe in any way shape or form just because of where I live. You live in Davis County my guy, you aren’t the arbiter of this conversation you think you are. I do support those things. You don’t. That’s the difference here. You think government spending is always a bad thing. It’s not. It can benefit us all by making farm irrigation more efficient and air more clean by giving people incentives to change to cleaner sources. Even if that is locally. You don’t have to believe in climate change to see the disgusting air along the Wasatch Front every winter.
Change and progress. They’re a slow moving wheel, but you put your shoulder to the wheel right?
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90 percent of the Sevier valley agriculture is flood irrigation.
Up in Sanpete 90 plus percent sprinklerd, Piute county 90 plus percent sprinklerd, even Wayne county is sprinklered but Sevier nope.
I don't see you out protesting Sevier agriculture.
Btw any guess how many local Republicans will be there for a photo op to take credit for something Joe Biden’s administration did?
www.sltrib.com
St. George leaders ecstatic over $87 million grant to construct new I-15 underpasses, ease traffic woes
$87 million federal grant to construct two interstate underpasses will help connect St. George neighborhoods and reduce traffic congestion.
Yeah. I’d love lots more grants to change that too? Our farm is sprinklers from a federal grant now. We use less water than when it was flood irrigated. What exactly is your point here? My point is let’s invest in changing that, not leave it as the wasteful process it is now. Y’all aren’t proving anything here. Do you support grants for better water efficiency in Sevier County then? Great! Nice to have you on board!
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Kind of a problem, you noticed the biggest reasons the charging stations are not getting built.
FEDERAL REGULATIONS
FEDERAL REGULATIONS
Weird, so it’s back to being the Presidents fault when they go up but not down right? PS that’s a statement of fact. You want a Fox headline or clip? America is pumping more oil than ever before. You seem to take issue with facts. Your gas price going up doesn’t dispute or disprove something that’s factual.
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The president thinks he can fix the shrinking Candy bar.
I would think fuel prices would be a little more important.
I would think fuel prices would be a little more important.
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I agree regulations are burdensome, and we should make the process of these sorts of programs streamlined and easier to navigate.
Both are important. It’s just factual that America is currently energy independent for the first time in 40 years and we are pumping more oil than ever before. It’s also true gas prices went up this week. These things are not mutually exclusive. Foreign oil has filled your vehicle for years, and they’ve cut their supplies. I thought conservatives obsessions were with energy independecy and drill drill drill. That’s what you’ve got right now. You’re just missing that foreign oil production.
PS I care about fuel prices as well at the pump. But the President isn’t as in control of that as people like to lament.
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It is not drill, drill, drill in Utah. The Biden administration has hurt Utah oil and natural gas exploration significantly.
“exploration” Listen. It’s absolutely still drill drill drill. Go look at the Book Cliffs. That ain’t wildlife or environmentally friendly. Oil and gas companies have millions upon millions upon millions of public land acres already under contract. Their greedy asses just want more and more and more even without having tapped most of the places they have access too. We can slow giving them more and more of our public lands as we look toward different forms of energy production and the giant assets those companies already have stockpiled.
Drone attacks on Russian oil facilities is why your gas price jumped this past week. These things are more complicated than “it’s the President” in good prices or in bad.
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Do you know anything about CIB funding
It is all dried up very little coming in.
It is all dried up very little coming in.
What point are you making here though?
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No exploration FUNDING.
Don't believe me talk to six county government.
Given the amount of oil and gas production currently in the Uintah basin that seems like a policy issue, if the funding only comes from exploration.
23 million acres of public land are under lease with oil and gas companies on BLM ground alone. Of that, 12.4 million acres are currently producing oil and gas. A little more than half. I don't think we should have to continually stock pile our public land into leases for oil and gas companies who are currently using only around 50% of the land they've already been leased.
If the policy is that that funding has to come from new exploration funding, then lets fix the policy and have it come from producing wells in some way. Plenty of public land is stockpiled under oil and gas leases. There is no rush to auction off more leases just because they want it when they're using only half of what they currently have stockpiled and are producing more oil than any country in the history of the world at any time. I also care about wildlife habitat and all those wells on the Book Cliffs are a reason population objectives can't be met. Now, we are an energy dependent country, and I'm not against wise mineral development but I don't think giving oil and gas companies every acre of public land just because they want it right now in their stock pile is a needed endeavor.
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I suppose solar panels to support the needs of electricity for the Wasatch front won't take away any wildlife habitat.
I have been told that solar field north of Richfield doesn't produce enough power to even supply the Sevier valley needs.
How big of a solar field are you going to need for the Wasatch front?
So here's the thing, moving totally away from fossil fuels today is not a rational stance. However, yes, we can strategically use some public lands for solar that will add to our energy. What is wrong with that? I am not advocating for the elimination of fossil fuels, but moving to cleaner forms of energy as we can. Why fight against cleaning up the air or energy? As far as the Wasatch Front. It is a localized issue. The problem isn't necessarily the fact that fossil fuels are bad. The problem is the geography and what the air becomes every winter. We can and should find local ways to clean up the air. I don't live in it, but if I spend a day up there in one of those nasty inversions my throat itches and many times I end up sick. I don't think our capitol city should be drown in gunk the whole winter. It is not good for people. So yes, on that localized air quality issue lots more grants should be given to help people along the Wasatch Front to change heating sources, and even help with energy costs through the 3 months it is a major issue. And yes, plenty more electric cars in that localized area would help. But make it feasible for people to have the option. I agree right now it is not. Yes you plug those cars in, but the air issue is a localized issue. I am not saying a Tesla doesn't plug into an outlet that isn't at least mostly powered by fossil fuels, I'm saying more electric cars, less wood burning, and cleaner heating sources along the Wasatch Front would help clean up the disgusting air during winter inversions and we should strive to do so.
Just like in a desert or Sevier County we should be helping farmers transfer to more efficient ways of watering their crops.
Solar panels on BLM land by comparison of the figures above for oil and gas which are 23 million acres leased, and 12 million acres being drilled currently, vs 870,000 focus acres for solar:
Solar Energy | Bureau of Land Management
I agree we cannot just be putting solar all over our public lands. It's also not good for wildlife. But, we can implement it where it makes sense, everywhere it makes sense honestly. We should implement it on large new facilities being built. Fossil Fuels have their place but being totally resistant to solar or other forms of energy is just not a reasonable take.
I do support something like Curtis has proposed in cutting the red tape in order to implement more Geo-thermal as well. It's true the red tape hurts progress a lot of times.
Can't look at the Uintah Basin dotted with more acres in roads and well pads than wildlife and tell me we can't do better. Can't look at the slushy air that settles along the Wasatch Front every winter and tell me we can't do better. Can't watch the GSL dry up as the most vital waterfowl areas in the west and Pacific flyway and tell me we can't do better. We can and should try to do all we can to make sure our wildlife thrive, our GSL doesn't dry up, and we clean up our air the best extent we can.
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Yes,
You keep agreeing with me.
You support OTHER PEOPLE DOING THINGS.
Things you have zero interest in doing yourself.
Pretty much the definition of phony
elkassassin
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Hey Oneye?
You A Member Of PETA As Well?
You A Member Of PETA As Well?
I support solving problems where they need to be solved. I HAVE went to sprinklers via a federal grant on our 80 acres. I HAVE switched from wood burning to gas. I DO make sure I use tier 3 gasoline which burns far cleaner. And yes I have and will continue to look at electric vehicles and get one that makes sense when it does. So Hoss. Go f*** yourself. The air along the Wasatch Front is disgusting every year for 3 months. Fixing it is better than advocating for breathing in car exhaust 30 days a year. It’s stupid to say otherwise. Flood irrigation in Sevier County, in the 2nd driest state in the nation, also dumb. Really stupid to contend otherwise. And most people will switch to more efficient or cleaner ways of doing things if given the incentive. You are 100% right I fully endorse giving people that option and incentive in the easiest ways possible. Again Mr. dirty air and water waste advocate. Find an actual point to make. Because you ain’t making one.
I support people having the OPTION to do those things. The incentives and grants to switch. Read.
You a member of your local mental institution? Why do they give you internet access?
notdonhunting
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Oneye, Not to start a argument
But a BYU professor has did the research and says Utah is actually the 3rd driest state, ahead of Arizona.
Dam climate change.
But a BYU professor has did the research and says Utah is actually the 3rd driest state, ahead of Arizona.
Dam climate change.
I actually appreciate this post lol.
I think we get caught up in some really ridiculous political divisions that become the focus.
I don’t like that Sevier County is flood irrigating at the rate it does. I don’t like going to our Capitol city and seeing it blanketed in gray sludge every year. It’s okay to admit these are both real problems our state has, and real problems we should address. The GSL drying up, especially as sportsmen, is a real problem. Let’s incentivize people having the option to make the choice to clean up our air or efficiently use our water in the 2nd(3rd) driest state in the nation. Our entire population and state, as well as wildlife will always benefit from us taking better care of our water, air, wildlife, and environment.
We. Can. Do. Better.
hossblur
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Again, and again, you keep making the point.
Lord. Now you're a alfalfa farmer? Holy hell. You? Captain environmentalist grow the most energy and water using crop in America? Not Kale?
But of course, you're different. You took a grant to change to a pivot or wheel. Not like those other greedy, polluters, you did it for the environment. You did t do it based on your "deeply" held belief in flood irrigation waste, but rather because someone paid you to.
Curious. That hay you grow, is that with Tier 3 gas also? Or EV? And please dear God, tell me you don't use that hay to feed any farting cows.
I'd tell you to stop but you cant. You're the gift that keeps on giving.
The only way you fix the inversion in my neighborhood is knock down the mountains to the east. Inversion is a result of geology.
elkassassin
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I don't grow alfalfa, it's a pasture with grass. I never said I grow alfalfa, again, you can't read. But I did go from flood irrigation to sprinklers. I've mentioned many times I own a small herd of cows.
Captain environmentalist, doesn't fit the profile you think he does in any way. You have this idea of what I'm supposed to look like or what box I fit into, but I'm quite a bit different than you think Hoss. I'm a blue collar worker, a hunter, a rural life long Utahn, and yeah have farmed some too. I like things like clean air, clean water, conservation, abundant wildlife and habitat with a good environment. If you don't like those things, quite frankly you're an idiot and just arguing against them to argue.
You again, show you just spew bullshit with no background, no info, no rationale, just political leanings. Conservation, efficiency, and clean air. All good things. But you keep ranting moron.
As for why I made the change to sprinklers, no....no I did it for water conservation reasons, and the incentive that it could be done. Good for water conservation in a dry desert in the second driest state in the nation, and good to have a grant process to make it so I could make the good water conservation choice to switch. Wood burning to gas? That cost was all me buddy. No, I 100% have consciously made the decision to go about better ways of doing things.
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elkassassin
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A Couple Questions For PROFESSOR Oneye:
They Use To Run The Incinerators Out West Of The Wasatch!
They Decided We Can't Do That Anymore!
So They Trucked That HAZ-MAT Just Across The Mexican Border & Alot Of It Wasn't Incinerated As Good As What We Were Doing With It Here Before!
Do We Not Get Southerly Flows Sometimes?
Does This World Not Still F'N Spin?
They Said We Can't Manufacture Here Because Of The Pollution!
So We Send Most Of The Materials To China,They Make The Items & Send The F'N TRASHY Built BS Back Here!
They Pollute As They Damn Well F'N Please!
Does Not This World Still Spin?
Phoniest F'N Way To Say We Didn't Pollute The Earth/Atmosphere Here!
I've Said For 40 F'N Plus Years If They Were Even 1/2 Serious About Cleaning The Atmosphere Up A Little That Passenger Cars Could of Been Running On Natural Gas!
The Few That Decided To Help Mother Earth A Little Made The Conversions On Their Vehicles & Then What Happened?
They Got Bent Over At The Pumps After Some Of Them Spent A Nice Chunk Of F'N Change!
How'd That Pan Out For You?
JFYI!
Sprinklers/Wheel Lines/Pivots For Irrigation Have There Repercussions!
They Decided Around Here You Can't Have More Than One Share Of Water Per One Acre Of Ground!
That's BS!
Carry On With Your BS!
They Use To Run The Incinerators Out West Of The Wasatch!
They Decided We Can't Do That Anymore!
So They Trucked That HAZ-MAT Just Across The Mexican Border & Alot Of It Wasn't Incinerated As Good As What We Were Doing With It Here Before!
Do We Not Get Southerly Flows Sometimes?
Does This World Not Still F'N Spin?
They Said We Can't Manufacture Here Because Of The Pollution!
So We Send Most Of The Materials To China,They Make The Items & Send The F'N TRASHY Built BS Back Here!
They Pollute As They Damn Well F'N Please!
Does Not This World Still Spin?
Phoniest F'N Way To Say We Didn't Pollute The Earth/Atmosphere Here!
I've Said For 40 F'N Plus Years If They Were Even 1/2 Serious About Cleaning The Atmosphere Up A Little That Passenger Cars Could of Been Running On Natural Gas!
The Few That Decided To Help Mother Earth A Little Made The Conversions On Their Vehicles & Then What Happened?
They Got Bent Over At The Pumps After Some Of Them Spent A Nice Chunk Of F'N Change!
How'd That Pan Out For You?
JFYI!
Sprinklers/Wheel Lines/Pivots For Irrigation Have There Repercussions!
They Decided Around Here You Can't Have More Than One Share Of Water Per One Acre Of Ground!
That's BS!
Carry On With Your BS!
elkassassin
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And I Quote:
This Is A Problem Our State Has!
GEEZUS!
Wake TF Up Oneye!
It's A World Issue & I Guess You've Never Studied What China & Venezuela Does To Mother Earth?
This Is A Problem Our State Has!
GEEZUS!
Wake TF Up Oneye!
It's A World Issue & I Guess You've Never Studied What China & Venezuela Does To Mother Earth?
hossblur
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Hoss has chimed in with more of nothing to say.
You look like an idiot at this point.
Honestly man, Hoss is an idiot, but you have real problems. I’m not entertaining you. I can tell you can’t even rationalize what I’m saying. You’re someones unhinged uncle everyone in your family makes fun of behind your back at how crazy you are. They need to take your internet connection away at the mental institute. You don’t need to reply anymore to me. Hoss is at least someone who can put together a coherent sentence, but you enjoy the jumbled world you have going on upstairs.
Stop capitalizing the start of every word and get your grammar under control then I’ll consider hearing you out on your environmental suggestions. You couldn’t read and comprehend a scientific study seeing as you can’t even write a coherent post on Monster Muleys.
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hossblur
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Coming from you, you have no idea how big a complement that is.
elkassassin
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So?
You Either Don't Comprehend What's Going On With The Pollution BS?
Or You're One Of The GREENIES Thinking You're Gonna Save The Earth All By Yourself With Your STUPID BS Ideas!
As Smart As You Claim You Are!
SPLAIN How Moving Pollution To Other Areas Of The Globe Helps Anything In The Long Run!
You Either Don't Comprehend What's Going On With The Pollution BS?
Or You're One Of The GREENIES Thinking You're Gonna Save The Earth All By Yourself With Your STUPID BS Ideas!
As Smart As You Claim You Are!
SPLAIN How Moving Pollution To Other Areas Of The Globe Helps Anything In The Long Run!
You’re more than welcome.
