I've hunted Iowa late muzzy season since the early 90's every year so I've used many of them. In my straight up experience you could not give me a CVA , I've tried them sold them , tried them again and of course sold them. I always tried saving some money vrs paying for Thompson Centers. I've had hang fires , inconsistent groups , rear stock bolts come loose , and just nothing but trouble with CVA. I also forgot to mention I have a wife that hunts early muzzy every year and 3 kids that youth hunt muzzy , my guns get used a TON ! In the end I have two Thompson Center Omegas we shoot and not one complaint , they stay tight , group extremely tight , and fire every time ! I'm sure there are others out there that make a great muzzy but in my experience I won't trust my one shot to CVA.