Proposed NDOW Big Game Quotas

[chukarhunter_nv]

Here are the proposed big game quotas for this upcoming season. Looks to be a reduction in overall tags for most species.

http://www.ndow.org/uploadedFiles/ndoworg/Content/Public_Meetings/CR%2021-14%20Big%20Game%20Quotas%20for%20the%202021-2022%20Season.pdf

 

[buckhorn]

Here are the proposed big game quotas for this upcoming season. Looks to be a reduction in overall tags for most species.

http://www.ndow.org/uploadedFiles/ndoworg/Content/Public_Meetings/CR%2021-14%20Big%20Game%20Quotas%20for%20the%202021-2022%20Season.pdf

I was wondering when those proposals would come out. Thanks

 

[doz]

Crazy... Area 17 grew by 35 tags total for rifle between all 3 seasons (they added a mid season and distributed tags accordingly).

 

[maddog58]

Seeing a few interesting changes

 

[fullcry]

I don’t understand how they could have EWE hunts anywhere.I would thing they would be transplanting surplus animals all over the country.

 

[Hackleback]

The Ewe hunts are in herds that above management goals and are also known to contain pneumonia issues. They don't want to move potentially sick/carrier animals to new locations.

 

[iowacity]

The Ewe hunts are in herds that above management goals and are also known to contain pneumonia issues. They don't want to move potentially sick/carrier animals to new locations.

I think this in the wrong approach. Speaking of unit 213 specifically. This is a relict herd that has survived multiple disease die offs. The herd seems to be resilient and growing despite pneumonia outbreaks. I think they should be studying them to confirm if the herd does have a natural immunity. If so, these are exactly the animals that should be transplanted to spread their genetics.

 

[buckhorn]

I think this in the wrong approach. Speaking of unit 213 specifically. This is a relict herd that has survived multiple disease die offs. The herd seems to be resilient and growing despite pneumonia outbreaks. I think they should be studying them to confirm if the herd does have a natural immunity. If so, these are exactly the animals that should be transplanted to spread their genetics.

I’m not a Biologist but I agree.
You have a good point.
I disagree with any female tags being issued except for maybe some cow elk.
I guess selling female tags generates more money for the department than transplants.

I also don’t understand why we need Spike Elk hunts!

 

[Sallaberry]

Well hear I go kill all the elk in Nevada if you want to save the mule deer I’m sure it’s unfavorable to most but it’s my position.

 

[mevertsen]

I read the first page regarding the overall herd information for each species. Nevada is considering and has recently transplanted sheep to Utah in recent years. These trap and transplants also take a significant amount of time to work through, meanwhile the sheep are still eating and drinking and using up the resources we are all in competition for.

I also noticed they were actually having to fill water developments in south , which I presume is 268, due to the drought and the developments going dry. That tells me the herd is overgrown for what I'd available. We do live in the desert and water is challenging. Just look at lake mead right now and its water level.

Also, two years ago, the disease went from the very southern tip of the stillwater, which they discovered shortly after doing a trap and transplant, into 045 in a very short time. I don't recall the specific dates, but it was in the January commission meeting.

Another problem I see, aside from drought and disease, is space.

Where do we put them in the state, where there isn't a significant issue of habitat loss and urban encroachment, and where there is still water available?

I have participated in the ewe hunt before through my daughter, and I applied this year as well.

 

[LivingTheDream]

Does anyone here have a POC that I could reach out to about helping fund a sheep relocation or water guzzlers? You can PM me if you don't want to post publicly.

 

[Bwht4x4]

When quotas rise I can't seem to draw a tag. Maybe this year my 20 pts for elk and sheep I will draw a tag since the quotas are being lowered overall!

 

[mevertsen]

Does anyone here have a POC that I could reach out to about helping fund a sheep relocation or water guzzlers? You can PM me if you don't want to post publicly.

Nevada bighorns unlimited

 

[doz]

Well hear I go kill all the elk in Nevada if you want to save the mule deer I’m sure it’s unfavorable to most but it’s my position.

Pretty much. So many areas that used to be great deer habitat have been taken over by the Elk.

More so than that though, kill all the wild horses THAT ARE NOT NATIVE TO THIS STATE!!!!! These wild horses eat everything and breed like no other. Yet they are protected somehow.

 

[hntnfool]

I’m curious, does the approved quota follow the recommended quota? And does the guided draw come out of this quota? (meaning there would be no tags available in the general draw?)

 

[Sallaberry]

I’m curious, does the approved quota follow the recommended quota? And does the guided draw come out of this quota? (meaning there would be no tags available in the general draw?)

Not sure but I would imagine that the nonresident tags will be in the general draw.

 

[lostinOregon]

The guided quota used to be set by the prior years quotas, so in this case they will get the tags based upon the higher tag numbers of last year. The tags you see in the quotas are the ones available in the upcoming draw.

That is how they used to do it since the guide draw was before the season setting numbers.

Rich

 

[mevertsen]

The commission most generally accepts what NDOW proposses, though I have seen a few changes be made over the years.

The guided draw tags are already allocated, and that draw is complete.

Everything else is drawn in late May(date in the reg book).

 

[chukarhunter_nv]

I’m curious, does the approved quota follow the recommended quota? And does the guided draw come out of this quota? (meaning there would be no tags available in the general draw?)

They usually follow pretty closely to the recommendations. NDOW sets aside a certain number of rifle mule deer tags that are available exclusively for nonresident applicants that apply through a licensed Nevada outfitter.

 

[backcountrysassn]

Well hear I go kill all the elk in Nevada if you want to save the mule deer I’m sure it’s unfavorable to most but it’s my position.

Haha. Some people are just idiots. Has nothing to do with elk. It’s all about the pinyon/juniper encroachment. The Pinyon/juniper groves that are expanding makes horrible deer habitat and great elk habitat. So the declining deer numbers have nothing to do with the elk, but the habitat the elk thrive in. If you want deer numbers to go up, burn down these pinyon/jumpers groves and stop putting out wildfires.

 

[Sallaberry]

Haha. Some people are just idiots. Has nothing to do with elk. It’s all about the pinyon/juniper encroachment. The Pinyon/juniper groves that are expanding makes horrible deer habitat and great elk habitat. So the declining deer numbers have nothing to do with the elk, but the habitat the elk thrive in. If you want deer numbers to go up, burn down these pinyon/jumpers groves and stop putting out wildfires.

Sure elk don’t eat the same stuff blaw blaw blaw. Funny how elk are chasing beavers out of Yellowstone. I know areas where they clear cut juniper and pinyon for sage hen habitat and the deer numbers are still on the decline. I read an article from 1957 about how the elk in the Schell creek range we’re going to wipe out mule deer population. It had a complete timeline on when they were introduced what framers were paid from crop damage and at the end of the article it said that the elk should be removed. Oh and maybe quit driving you’re vehicles because juniper and pinyon encroachment is due to the extra carbon in the atmosphere. I’ve seen arial shots from the 1930-2000 overlaid and you can clearly see the growth. So my solution is kill all the elk as opposed to stop driving.

 

[BGnight]

How fast do new P/J forests grow? Wouldn't logic dictate that fires are reducing P/J groves faster than they could possibly expand? I don't buy that P/J has any significant affect on deer populations compared to wild horses/burros/predators and drought.
I do know the deer love burned areas though.

 

[X7ahunter]

Instead of killing off all the elk how about killing off the non native invasive species that has actually been linked to the decline of every species in the west.