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I don't know how they continue to run a man as the Democratic Presidential nominee after this admission.
I'm guessing you'd also concede that there's gonna be some pretty dang good adds run against Trump also.I sure hope Biden stays in the race, can't wait to see the campaign adds Trump runs against him.
Serious questionThe notion that the man is too brain dead to be charged yet he's perfectly capable of being the leader of the free world in control of the nuclear football is beyond dumb. He's gone. This has to be pre-coordinated, they are putting the old goat out to pasture.
Trump does not have a report filed on him by the DOJ saying he does not have the mental ability to stand trial and that his dementia is so bad he can't even remember the year his son died and he still believes he is the vice President of the United States.I'm guessing you'd also concede that there's gonna be some pretty dang good adds run against Trump also.
I mean it's not like he doesn't bless the press and Democrats with mind numbing stupidity on a nearly daily basis.....I really do hope Trump isn't right and we find ourselves marching towards WW2.
Hopefully Trump beats Obama in the election…..in his own mindTrump does not have a report filed on him by the DOJ saying he does not have the mental ability to stand trial and that his dementia is so bad he can't even remember the year his son died and he still believes he is the vice President of the United States.
Come on there is no comparison.
Seriously? Are you trying to compare the number of gaffes between Biden and Trump? We could sit here for literally hours listening to mumbling Biden gaffes. Hell, if Biden spoke in public as much as Trump did just think of how much more footage we'd have. There's a reason they keep idiot Biden away from a mic and out of the public eye as much as they do. I'm sure you've never mispoken? Doing it a couple of times doesn't mean anything but when you can't string a single sentence together during any public speaking, EVER, it's a whole other ballgame.I'm guessing you'd also concede that there's gonna be some pretty dang good adds run against Trump also.
I mean it's not like he doesn't bless the press and Democrats with mind numbing stupidity on a nearly daily basis.....I really do hope Trump isn't right and we find ourselves marching towards WW2.
Also hoping Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, Nikky Haley doesn’t get to be in charge of security.Seriously? Are you trying to compare the number of gaffes between Biden and Trump? We could sit here for literally hours listening to mumbling Biden gaffes. Hell, if Biden spoke in public as much as Trump did just think of how much more footage we'd have. There's a reason they keep idiot Biden away from a mic and out of the public eye as much as they do.
How much would you like to wager on a mental test between Trump and Biden?
What else do you expect the Dems to say? How do they even stand up for a guy who is senile and sold out our country? The person they voted for, and will probably vote for again, is mentally incapable of running this country.....what does that say about them? I know the words I'm thinking of but I don't want bullskin, NMFROM81 to go cry in the corner. They are a certain kind of special.Trump does not have a report filed on him by the DOJ saying he does not have the mental ability to stand trial and that his dementia is so bad he can't even remember the year his son died and he still believes he is the vice President of the United States.
Come on there is no comparison.
Come on man, just listen to them talk, or watch how Biden moves. Do you think Biden could go play a round of golf right now?Also hoping Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, Nikky Haley doesn’t get to be in charge of security.
Yeah Biden’s slow and in decline, but he’s not as stupid as Trump.
And no, I’m not going to wager you on that…..unless you honestly think you’re gonna get them in a room together to take a “mental test”.
What “mental test” do you suppose they should take? Should they take the same “mental test” that Trump just aced? I think he correctly identified a giraffe, and then bragged about it. What a joke Fly.
They both suck way beyond anyone I'd ever consider voting for.Serious question
Do you rather have a man that has dementia and is cognitive illiterate or a women that has a IQ of 40 and used race and sexual acts to get to the level of the vice president?
Come on, I'm not calling you out. Just pointing out that I doubt Biden could make his way around a course. It just shows that Trump can at least move like a somewhat able bodied person.That really hurts when you call me out like that Fly.
You are right, Biden looks slow and old, I’ve never said otherwise….just that he’s not as stupid as Trump.
You’re also right that we should pick the next president based on their golf game. Unfortunately, Trumps notorious for cheating in golf.
My problem with Haley is she is, not unlike most politicians, a bought and paid for establishment war monger. Look at her donors and who paved her path. If she becomes President we WILL be in foreign wars the entire time she's in office.It’s a F****** National Embarrassment that these 2 are the likely choices for the best country in the world, with some major problems to fix. There’s better options and neither will step aside for the greater good.
I don’t think Haley is perfect, but I think I’ve got some damn good reasons for thinking she’s the best option.
Fair enough. She’s not the perfect candidate.My problem with Haley is she is, not unlike most politicians, a bought and paid for establishment war monger. Look at her donors and who paved her path. If she becomes President we WILL be in foreign wars the entire time she's in office.
When a republican candidate is being funded by huge democratic donors the red flag shouldn't be ignored.
Trump thinks George Washington took control of the airports in the Revolutionary War, that Jeb Bush got us into Iraq, that Pence got to choose who won the election, that we need a wall on the Colorado border, that Biden may start WWII, and that he beat Obama in the 2016 election.Trump does not have a report filed on him by the DOJ saying he does not have the mental ability to stand trial and that his dementia is so bad he can't even remember the year his son died and he still believes he is the vice President of the United States.
Come on there is no comparison.
I know neither party would "allow" a third party candidate but I've always wondered why nobody has truly run with a campaign of just telling it like it is. I think this country is just waiting, salivating, for a person who gets up to the podium and isn't afraid to call a spade a spade and put the hard truth out there. It would be so refreshing and I truly believe it's what most people want. Like I said though, it will not be allowed to happen.Fair enough. She’s not the perfect candidate.
I’m sure we all heard Trumps guarantee that he’d end the Ukraine war in 24 hours.
Also hoping Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, Nikky Haley doesn’t get to be in charge of security.
Yeah Biden’s slow and in decline, but he’s not as stupid as Trump.
And no, I’m not going to wager you on that…..unless you honestly think you’re gonna get them in a room together to take a “mental test”.
What “mental test” do you suppose they should take? Should they take the same “mental test” that Trump just aced? I think he correctly identified a giraffe, and then bragged about it. What a joke Fly.
I’ve got news for you Hoss…. This is an open forum, one you’re not in control of. I think I’ll participate as I want, until I get kicked off.Dude. Just stop.
You're not Oneye. I disagree with you often, but you don't come off as a flaming dumbass.
Too senile to be charged.
Trump is charged by the same DOJ that won't charge Biden for being to senile.
Let that sink in.
Take the advice. Just stop.
Fly, we just had the most conservative, constitutional, non-establishment, true reformer, progressive assassin, I've ever seen in politics, get shot down by 1/2 of the 14% of Iowa Republicans that bothered to show up to the 1st primary. The first guy I've wanted to vote FOR since Regan... everyone since has been the lesser of two evils. The guy turned deep purple FLA into a ruby red state and has done for FLA in the opposite direction, of what progressives have done to California. And he's not an Ahole. The Magadonian base wants to see the orange clown car show continue for some reason? Trump hates RDS & has vowed to destroy any chance he might have in '28. Trump tried to take down RDS before the last FLA gov. election and he won by 20 points. Establishment hated Regan too.I know neither party would "allow" a third party candidate but I've always wondered why nobody has truly run with a campaign of just telling it like it is. I think this country is just waiting, salivating, for a person who gets up to the podium and isn't afraid to call a spade a spade and put the hard truth out there. It would be so refreshing and I truly believe it's what most people want. Like I said though, it will not be allowed to happen.
BTW, I know a lot of us on here seem to have a vast difference of opinion when on the keyboard but I bet if we sat down there would be more in common than different.
Umm, it's the top story on both CNN & MSNBC. They both have multiple stories in a row on their front page.It’s not his time…yet.
On a side note, notice the special counsel released their report on Biden on the same day it’s all about Trump. Bury the Biden story behind the “bigger” Trump headlines.
It wasn’t up when I looked, thanks.Umm, it's the top story on both CNN & MSNBC. They both have multiple stories in a row on their front page.
CNN even added an additional mix-up by Biden in the headline
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That may well be true, but it will blow a big hole in the Dems argument that they are the ones protecting democracy.I've said for a long time (go search my prior posts) that the Dems are baiting the Repubs into running Trump and that they will replace Biden before the election. I still believe that.
It's not right for the Dems to run Biden. He's not competent and has moved too far to the left. He was known as a moderate and a bridge builder as a senator, that's no longer the case. They need to offer a better candidate, but they have no obligation to pick the Repubs nominee for them.That may well be true, but it will blow a big hole in the Dems argument that they are the ones protecting democracy.
First off Trump was not my preferred candidate, infact he was not in my top two, but I will vote for him over Biden.Trump thinks George Washington took control of the airports in the Revolutionary War, that Jeb Bush got us into Iraq, that Pence got to choose who won the election, that we need a wall on the Colorado border, that Biden may start WWII, and that he beat Obama in the 2016 election.
Biden belongs in a retirement home and Trump belongs in prison. They're both not fit for the White House.
I've said for a long time (go search my prior posts) that the Dems are baiting the Repubs into running Trump and that they will replace Biden before the election. I still believe that.
What else do you expect the Dems to say? How do they even stand up for a guy who is senile and sold out our country? The person they voted for, and will probably vote for again, is mentally incapable of running this country.....what does that say about them? I know the words I'm thinking of but I don't want bullskin, NMFROM81 to go cry in the corner. They are a certain kind of special.
I’ve got news for you Hoss…. This is an open forum, one you’re not in control of. I think I’ll participate as I want, until I get kicked off.
We’re having a spirited discussion and coming to some common ground. Fly even gave me a thumbs up.
I don’t care if I’ve offended your fragile ego. If you don’t want to read what I post, then block me…..it won’t hurt my feelings.
BTW I’m also NOT denying that Biden’s incapable. I’m pointing out that they both are.
This is a great political thread- both sides openly discussing our two scumbags we get to choose from.
Biden is senile, been accused of rape, mishandles secrets, and has been all around the Biden family grift/frauds with foreign governments.
Trump's ego borders on evil, been accused of rape, mishandles secrets, and plays all around the edges of financial fraud.
OK- both are scumbags, morally questionable at best, not who anyone would have voted for a few short decades ago. BUT- they are almost certainly our choices.
What is boils down to is which scumbag will have the best policies for the country. For me- it's about the economy and security of the country. Hands down, scumbag Trump wins.
Jill Biden is the worst person in America, and there isn't a close second
I will admit to my Trump Disdain Syndrome. Thanks for the permission.I tried man.
Ride that TDS train.
Glad you are able to regurgitate all the Democrat talking points on why Trump is a threat to democracy. Now can you tell us why running a candidate that is clearly unfit during the primaries and then having the democrat power brokers replace him with a different candidate behind closed doors at the convention is the way democracy should work.It's not right for the Dems to run Biden. He's not competent and has moved too far to the left. He was known as a moderate and a bridge builder as a senator, that's no longer the case. They need to offer a better candidate, but they have no obligation to pick the Repubs nominee for them.
The fact that the Repubs have kicked out everybody who has spoken against Trump after he literally tried to overthrow democracy and use J6 to stay in power (his stated goal) means they've sold their soul to the devil. There's no redemption for them until they admit what J6 was and that the election wasn't stolen. As long as the Repubs keep pushing lies to get votes, they're literally supporting the person who was closer to tearing apart our democracy and fair elections than any person since the Civil War.
PS. That's the reason I can't support Nikki Haley. I knew who Trump was the whole time, Haley worked for him and she either didn't see it or ignored it for her own political gain. Whichever reason it is, she doesn't have what it takes to be President, IMO.
It's not.Glad you are able to regurgitate all the Democrat talking points on why Trump is a threat to democracy. Now can you tell us why running a candidate that is clearly unfit during the primaries and then having the democrat power brokers replace him with a different candidate behind closed doors at the convention is the way democracy should work.
Everyone knew about Biden’s mental state before he became President. They hid him in the basement for a reason in 2019, they knew back then. They used Biden from day 1, the real power players knowing he was just a figure head. I hope people are realizing what really has been going on behind the scenes….the guy they voted for has not been truly calling the shots.Interesting take. I haven't been around somebody day to day in mental decline. I imagine it's not as obvious as when you see somebody after ten years who has obviously changed.
I think his cabinet is ultimately responsible. They see him in official action daily. They know, and they can act under the 25th amendment.
Glad you are able to regurgitate all the Democrat talking points on why Trump is a threat to democracy. Now can you tell us why running a candidate that is clearly unfit during the primaries and then having the democrat power brokers replace him with a different candidate behind closed doors at the convention is the way democracy should work.
It's not.
Our two party system is broken. Biden isn't the best Democrat and Trump isn't the best Republican.
This isn't how our democracy should work at all. It's corrupt and broken.
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But at least when the votes are cast in November, people will know who they're voting for.
Trump's plan is to delay his various trials, that could result in substantial prison time, to after the election in hopes he can either pardon himself or get the charges dismissed by Executive Order. When people vote for Trump, they won't even know if it's possible for him to actually be President. That's not a better example of how our democracy should work.
A responsible Republican party would pull Trump and put somebody else in until the trials are settled and people know if he's a convicted felon or an acquitted one and who will actually sit in the Oval Office.
In the least, Trump could try and have his day in court prior to the election, but instead he's filing every extension request and using every delay tactic possible. Not at all the actions of somebody who thinks he's innocent and expects to be acquitted.
It should work like it used to--when anyone who even expressed an interest in office would never have been considered for the job. Any sign of self-interest would certainly disqualify anyone from public service back when people still understood the role of their public servants. Service was understood to mean sacrifice. Men like Washington, who could have been cooling their heels on the veranda, chose instead to spend seven years on the front. He was elected President not because of his policy proposals, but because men recognized his integrity when honor was the greatest commodity of all. Jefferson left office a financially ruined man.
Now we live in a world where most men are concerned only with their own money and advantage. There is no honor in being elected president today. Those who would nominate our candidates have become so weak that they cannot even stand as a group against one who actively undercuts their own interests. It is mind-boggling that the Dems have not tossed Biden out in favor of a better candidate and the same true for the R's. What should happen is a national convention, where men and women decide what works best for their constituents, and where the efforts of any party may be concentrated thereafter on one candidate. The only thing that stands between this and our actual predicament is the fact that candidates and their sponsors are unwilling to enter such a contest on level ground and insist on inflating themselves beforehand. By the time any such national conversation takes place, money has spoken and the decision has been made by those to whom the money was directed. To make matters worse, our presumptive nominee has no qualms whatsoever about stating his interests in the position, has declared that he will destroy those in his own party who would work on behalf of any other candidate, and voters have no higher expectations. They complain about a broken system while they wallow like hogs in the swamp.
Look how the DOJ delayed investigating Hunter to let the statute of limitations expire. How about the DOJ delaying the Russiagate fiasco, even though they knew it was all a lie. How about delaying the laptop story even though they already had all the info it was real.So in 2028,
A Utah prosecutor should drum up charges on Gavin Newsome so that the Dems will pull him from the election?
You are right, Trump is delaying.
But had Smith not delayed 2.5 years to bring the charges so as to hit election season, it wouldn't matter.
'Cause he's not senile yet!How can the case against Trump not be thrown out?
I will not point out the successes of either man because neither has done anything impressive enough to crow about. (Blind sow, acorn, etc) But, when I weigh the failures of both, I find that the events of January 6 to be most disturbing, followed by the question of a huge national debt for which R's and D's are both responsible. I may support a third party simply because I do not believe that I must support either R's or D's on the grounds that the other would destroy my life. If that were the standard, then either is capable of doing so. But the stock market is at an all time high, interest rates are dropping, I don't plan on taking fentanyl, and I would not have purchased a F250 if I could not afford the fuel. I find it hard to sympathize with those who complain about living conditions in the United States. To them I would say get a job, and if you don't like it, get a better job.Bullskin, I don't know what state you live in, so I don't know your political climate.
I live in Utah and I could set out the election and not vote for anyone, we know who will win in Utah and I could then take the high road and say I did not vote for that fool.
But if you live in Arizona, or Nevada or anyone of the swing states by not voting you might be helping someone you really don't want in office.
I am not saying Trump was a great President but I do know up until COVID happened this country had not been so good for along time, I am talking more than 20 years.
Trump allowed this country to grow without any government intrusion, and he put the countries that took advantage of us on notice NO MORE.
Trump did not handle COVID good in fact I personally believe he showed his true colors and that he is truly a Democrat.
January 6th I don't know how I fell about that, but I do know we never got the truth about it (the FBI was involved). I am not going to debate about January 6th.
Biden has been the complete opposite of Trump he has had a hand in every facet of this great country. He has disrupted oil and natural gas production, he has effected the stock market, he has greatly effected the military branches in recruiting and retention, he has got involved in every conflict going on through out the world and China is treated as the lone super power of the world and he has turned are borders into freeways for anyone that wants to cross, no matter what kind of Ilk or what kind of trash (fentanyl or sex trafficking) the illegal aliens might be.
I was all in for DeSantis but that did not happen.
I personally will take what Trump did for this country.
Go ahead and not vote for Trump and go ahead and not vote for Biden. Just remember if you live in a swing state not voting is a vote for the opposition.
You may be a fan of liberal politics, but I am a conservative. I would suggest that there is nothing that we were capable of doing 160 years ago that we cannot manage today if we have the will. You cannot drain the swamp and make excuses at the same time.When was this magical time? Hasn't been for 160 years
So in 2028,
A Utah prosecutor should drum up charges on Gavin Newsome so that the Dems will pull him from the election?
You are right, Trump is delaying.
But had Smith not delayed 2.5 years to bring the charges so as to hit election season, it wouldn't matter.
Because they're completely unrelated.The recent Biden classified doc info is proof. How can the case against Trump not be thrown out?
Truly blows me away (no pun intended) that an attractive, fairly young, woman of color with a functioning brain, that is next in line for POTUS is so crappy inept.... that they are boxed into a corner & can't figure out what to do with her. She did check the boxes though... maybe next time they won't box themselves in so bad by checking all the boxes.
So what message does it send if Trump ends up being found guilty?Because they're completely unrelated.
Just because drug charges are not brought against one person for specific circumstances doesn't mean that everybody else gets their drug charges dropped too.
So what message does it send if Trump ends up being found guilty?
I suppose you would be ok with Biden being let off the hook? Just look at the difference in how the docs were stored?
Even though I rarely agree with what you say it is very obvious the difference in how these two presidents are being treated. In the future when the true depths of Biden’s actions are brought to light I think it will show he is probably the most traitorous, grifter, of a President we have ever had.
I’m just sick of the double standard in our DOJ, at the political level all the way down to street thugs.
What’s getting lost in this is….BEING VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HAD NO DECLASSIFICATION POWER AT ALL! That alone should be enough to bring him down. We won’t even get into everything else.Both men are guilty of illegally removing classified information and possibly sharing it with others. On that count, both should receive the same penalty. Trump may also be guilty of obstruction. That would merit a separate penalty. Until we see the results of both investigations, it seems unreasonable to accuse the DOJ of holding each to a different standard. My guess is that Trump will not be held accountable for possessing the docs, just as Biden has not. Whether or not he receives any penalty for the latter charge remains to be seen. In the end, Biden's stupidity is not only dangerous on its face, but also make it difficult to hold others accountable. Again, it makes no sense that either of these men would be supported by anyone who cares about national security or the rule of law.
If cops pulled over a Ferrari and a Corvette back to back both guys driving over 100 mph and found a pound of cocaine in each and then precided to arrest the guy driving the Ferrari and released the Corvette driver saying we will investigate and get back with you. Go ahead and drive 100 mph we are good with it.Because they're completely unrelated.
Just because drug charges are not brought against one person for specific circumstances doesn't mean that everybody else gets their drug charges dropped too.
Exactly. For people to think this wasn’t in their back pocket of options is totally ignorant.Like Nobody Could See That Before The Last Election?
JUDAS!
F'N!
PRIEST!
He was indicted by a jury of his peers, not a prosecutor. That's how a Grand Jury works. Let alone several of them in different jurisdictions.
Exactly, pretty telling there. Innocent people can't wait for their day in court. People that know they are guilty act a little different.In the least, Trump could try and have his day in court prior to the election, but instead he's filing every extension request and using every delay tactic possible. Not at all the actions of somebody who thinks he's innocent and expects to be acquitted.
Exactly, pretty telling there. Innocent people can't wait for their day in court. Guilty people act a little different.
Sorry, but if your gonna act like an authority, you should probably get it right.Ok….Garland waiting till election time then…have it your way.
But…the obvious is obvious
How ironic of a statement when discussing the DOJ, fu*king hilarious.Sorry, but if your gonna act like an authority, you should probably get it right.
They also only see one side of the case."You can indict a ham sandwich"
Doesn't change the point
AmenI just want to thank everybody for having a civil discussion. I doubt anybody's mind has been changed and there are several different viewpoints expressed, but it's pretty much stayed on substance
I think it's pretty much unanimous that nobody is happy with the choices right now and acknowledges legitimate points of concern from each side. We just have different areas we find most concerning relative to the others.
I'm sure we could all enjoy each other's company on a hunt or around a campfire.
what part is wrong?Sorry, but if your gonna act like an authority, you should probably get it right.
Reference post #70.what part is wrong?
I was replying to your post #72Reference post #70.
Jack Smith didn't wait 39 months.
Garland appointed Jack Smith to look into Trumps alleged wrongdoings in Nov 22. From there Smith worked pretty quickly.
bull skin said.
It is similarly obvious that Trump is mentally incompetent, and especially if the standard is the number of times one chooses to testify "I do not recall" in court.
Stating that in court does not make a person mentally incompetent.
That is a standard statement made to prevent a person from being accused of perjury or giving information to the opposite side to be used in court. Mostly done at the advice of the person's attorney.
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