Even with max points it's tough to draw these areas. If you don't mind waiting, putting the time and effort into these areas could really pay off. If you want to hunt every year or every other year, the trick then would be to pick a place with reasonable deer numbers, plenty of remote country, and learn the heck out of it. Big deer come from these areas. The mixed reviews you get from people who hunted the "top" areas should tell you something. Not everybody will kill a big buck! It takes a combination of time, effort, skill, and luck to pull a big deer from anywhere, even these "top" areas. One guy will tell you its the cats azz because he pounded a bruiser, and another guy will tell you he aint going back because all he saw were tons of mediocre deer. October seasons can be tough for big bucks. They just aren't in the habit of moving much during that time of year, especially when the lead starts flying!