12 points for both deer and elk
xitnet: you must be very optomistic. I don't see a hunt that would have better than 2% odds with 12 points on the San Juan. And they could always decide to close the season at the last minute since it is now a monument.
But I will throw this out there. The reason our NR odds suck so much is that they let us apply for all species. It would at least double our odds of drawing any one species if they would do what they do for residents: make them apply for only one tag. Why do you think the residents don't get to apply for multiple species?? Because they don't want to.
And NRs are really only applying for 1 tag, because if we get pulled for any tag, we are out of the drawings for all other species tags. It is not legal to draw more than one LE tag
They could change it so that we could still apply for points (and they get the same money) but only 1 tag. That way our odds are much better. If you apply for every species out there, then your total odds of drawing any tag is slightly better than if they drop it to one. However, for people like me that only care about elk and deer, it actually lowers our total odds of drawing a tag
For example: lets say you are applying for and elk and a deer tag that both have a 5% chance of drawing vs. 1/2 the number of applicants drawing for 1 tag (10% odds). The chance of drawing a tag from the two drawings at 5% is less than 10% odds. That is the way numbers/ statistics work.
txhunter58
venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)