DonVathome
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What I mean is, I have heard sheep are easy (wish I could add my 2 cents!). I know the toughest animals I have heard of are bison and oryx (gemsbucks). I have taken both - and they are tough.
My question is how can one species take the same bullet in the same place and stay up many times longer then the same size animal of another species? I am not talking about the oddball situation. I am saying the an 800# bison will take a LOT more to put down (or stay up longer) then a 800# pound elk.
My friend and I discussed this during our recent WY bison hunt. We developed 2 theories:
1. slower metabolism (I think mostly heart rate). Simply put they die slower. Shower heart rate = slower bleeding.
2. Tougher, literally tougher structure. Bison and oryx are the 2 toughest animals to eat. I doubt it is a coincidence that they are also the toughest to bring down. I suspect a bison lungs react to a bullet/BH differently then, say an elk. I thin like a dull broadhead vs a razor sharp one. The dull BH pushes stuff without cutting, a sharp one cuts more. Tough lung tissue moves more and gets cut less.
If you talk to those with experience taking many bison and may oryx (as well as many other big game animals) they will say bison and oryx are tougher to put down. Why?
PLEASE do not cite the time a bison died from a pin prick or a small whitetail doe ran a mile with a 300 mag in the lungs. I am talking in general.
It has to have something to do with biology. Also when I say put down, I know a well shot animal will die but a bison will take far longer then an elk. They are both dead after the 1st shot but the bison (or oryx) takes many times longer then a similar sized animal shot the same way.
I have the same post on bowsite and wanted input here too:
http://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforums/thread.cfm?threadid=438699&messages=27&forum=5
My question is how can one species take the same bullet in the same place and stay up many times longer then the same size animal of another species? I am not talking about the oddball situation. I am saying the an 800# bison will take a LOT more to put down (or stay up longer) then a 800# pound elk.
My friend and I discussed this during our recent WY bison hunt. We developed 2 theories:
1. slower metabolism (I think mostly heart rate). Simply put they die slower. Shower heart rate = slower bleeding.
2. Tougher, literally tougher structure. Bison and oryx are the 2 toughest animals to eat. I doubt it is a coincidence that they are also the toughest to bring down. I suspect a bison lungs react to a bullet/BH differently then, say an elk. I thin like a dull broadhead vs a razor sharp one. The dull BH pushes stuff without cutting, a sharp one cuts more. Tough lung tissue moves more and gets cut less.
If you talk to those with experience taking many bison and may oryx (as well as many other big game animals) they will say bison and oryx are tougher to put down. Why?
PLEASE do not cite the time a bison died from a pin prick or a small whitetail doe ran a mile with a 300 mag in the lungs. I am talking in general.
It has to have something to do with biology. Also when I say put down, I know a well shot animal will die but a bison will take far longer then an elk. They are both dead after the 1st shot but the bison (or oryx) takes many times longer then a similar sized animal shot the same way.
I have the same post on bowsite and wanted input here too:
http://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforums/thread.cfm?threadid=438699&messages=27&forum=5
