Steve, yeah, i get a kick how guys from other states think the lion situation, is us hunters fault. Riiiight!, heavy sarcasim. Actually considering just how many hunters there are in Kali, we do pretty good. A lot of anti's are based right here, we're still here too. Our money, us hunters, can be proud of what we do and what we've done.
I know it can be tough to get permission. A lot of people know this also...that's why they don't even bother to ask. You might be surprised Steve. Like you say is true but you knock on enough doors, sooner or later someone is going to let you hunt. It's the asking that's the hard part, i've been there, but people respect you for doing so and some, some will help you just because you did ask. S'up to you buddy, like i said, what you got to lose?... and, it's setting a good example for your kids.
joey