DonMartin
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Fellow Sportsmen:
Have you wondered why the proposed Kaibab National Monument issue has got strangely quiet after the initial blow up?
I have and I offer a few ideas.
I know the Arizona Game & Fish Commission weighed in on this by voting not to support the proposal.
But why did the issue go away almost as fast as it came to light.
Let me get on my soap box and throw out an idea or two.
IF President Obama had immediately embraced the idea of designating the North Kaibab as a national monument, what would have been the fallout in this very close upcoming election.
My thought would have been is that he would have lost hundreds of thousands of votes if he did that, and his advisors said to him, "Let this pass for now,it is politically too hot to get engaged in."
OK, so lets look at what happens. If President O'Bama is reelected, then he can make the designation with no fear of political backlash. He's out in 2016 anyway, and most will have completely forgotten about the flare up it caused (and it will!) when he made the designation.
OR if he looses, and he is lame duck, he can, just like President Clinton did, with a stroke of his pen, make the monument designation and walk away, as he will have nothing to loose.
So am I being just overly paranoid?
Is this what may happen down the road AFTER the election?
I think that those that created this proposal are way to smart not to know all of this.
I have been in meetings with these folks before and they are way to savvy not to realize that they can get what they want either way.
They just have to be patient.
Just wanted to get your ideas on this.
Loosing the Kaibab to a monument designation would ultimately be a huge loss for Arizona and other sportsmen. It is not broken so don't try and "fix" it like is being done on the Parashant!
The proposal was flawed and fraught with misinformation and there was no attempt to talk with others groups (like sportsmen) before they brought this forward in April.
They didn't seek bi-partisan support.
So what do you think?
There are several I would sure like to hear from on this, but I encourage all of you who see the Kaibab as I do to weigh in on this.
Don Martin
Have you wondered why the proposed Kaibab National Monument issue has got strangely quiet after the initial blow up?
I have and I offer a few ideas.
I know the Arizona Game & Fish Commission weighed in on this by voting not to support the proposal.
But why did the issue go away almost as fast as it came to light.
Let me get on my soap box and throw out an idea or two.
IF President Obama had immediately embraced the idea of designating the North Kaibab as a national monument, what would have been the fallout in this very close upcoming election.
My thought would have been is that he would have lost hundreds of thousands of votes if he did that, and his advisors said to him, "Let this pass for now,it is politically too hot to get engaged in."
OK, so lets look at what happens. If President O'Bama is reelected, then he can make the designation with no fear of political backlash. He's out in 2016 anyway, and most will have completely forgotten about the flare up it caused (and it will!) when he made the designation.
OR if he looses, and he is lame duck, he can, just like President Clinton did, with a stroke of his pen, make the monument designation and walk away, as he will have nothing to loose.
So am I being just overly paranoid?
Is this what may happen down the road AFTER the election?
I think that those that created this proposal are way to smart not to know all of this.
I have been in meetings with these folks before and they are way to savvy not to realize that they can get what they want either way.
They just have to be patient.
Just wanted to get your ideas on this.
Loosing the Kaibab to a monument designation would ultimately be a huge loss for Arizona and other sportsmen. It is not broken so don't try and "fix" it like is being done on the Parashant!
The proposal was flawed and fraught with misinformation and there was no attempt to talk with others groups (like sportsmen) before they brought this forward in April.
They didn't seek bi-partisan support.
So what do you think?
There are several I would sure like to hear from on this, but I encourage all of you who see the Kaibab as I do to weigh in on this.
Don Martin