Unit 27 fire

AZhunter

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Looking like this fire in 27 is gonna get real nasty. Be better for it in the long run but could be tough for this years elk hunt.
 
I hope people, homes and personal property are saved as this is going to be a BIG fire. Hard to fight right now because of the terrain and low humidity.

In the long run this will be a very good thing. Much like the Rodeo Chedeski fire 7 or 8 years ago. Game and fish said the wildlife return to the burn areas almost immediatley after a fire as it greens up very quickly. Monsoons generally start in mid to late June in this part of the state.
 
WOW!!!!! Not good at all. Every spot i jr turkey hunted looks like it went up in smoke..... This one could get very very very nasty.. Sad....
 
Fire has burnt all the way to the big lake look up tower, and almost to big lake. It's at 120,600+ acres with no containment.
 
I was up at Rezervation Lake from Friday to Tuesday. On Monday took the wife to the Catwalk in Glenwood, NM. We could see the fire really getting going as we were driving back. Whats strange is NM is dry as a bone and everything from Alpine to big lake is fairly green. NM might be in big trouble too if the winds shift. The wind is just crazy this year.
 
Over 1,000 people fighting the fire, over 140k acres burned, no containment in sight! This is going to be a bad one for sure.
 
Sad for sure...

Karen Warnick - The Independent



ROUND VALLEY ? A meeting of officials from Springerville, Eagar, Apache County, Navajo County, the White Mountain Apache Tribe, the health district, emergency management and others was held at 10 a.m. this morning, June 4. Plans were discussed for preparing for the eventuality of further evacuations.

The following information is from that meeting:

-Those with health and breathing issues are encouraged to leave the area now. The smoke will not be getting better.

-At this time there is no evacuation alert for Round Valley, but a pre-evacuation notice is expected to come within the next few days. Greer is still under an evacuation alert and a team of law enforcement personnel from surrounding areas went door-to-door to inform residents to be ready to evacuate at any time. If Greer is evacuated, the Sunrise resort and surrounding areas will be evacuated at the same time.

-Highway 260 towards McNary will be closed and evacuation should be by way of Highway 60.

-Check this website and 593 for further information and for the evacuation checklist that residents can use to begin preparing. The checklist is also available at www.readysetgo.com.

-The White Mountain Regional Medical Center is already transporting patients out of the area and is only open for emergencies.

-The Incident Command Teams are moving operations into Eagar at the Rodeo grounds and the schools. More resources are pouring into the area and will be based out of the Rodeo grounds. Sixty information personnel are coming into the area to spread throughout the communities at common meeting areas and businesses to spread current information and assist the public with what to do. Many will be at the White Mountain Joint Information Center at the Round Valley Primary School.

-Officials stressed that if or when the evacuation order is given, everyone should leave. If people stay behind it will hinder their efforts to fight the fire and save structures. If you choose to stay you will be restricted to your property. If you set foot off of the property you will be escorted out of town and not allowed to return.

-Nutrioso is expected to be the first community to be impacted by the fire. Local residents can best prepare by cleaning up long grass and wood piles away from structures. It is requested by the fire departments that residents not water their yards or gardens as it won't do any good and will deplete the water supply for saving structures.

-Officials stressed that this fire is a marathon not a sprint and people should be prepared for the long haul and not to panic. Helping neighbors and securing your property is your first obligation.

-The Round Valley Animal Rescue is setting up kennels donated from Petsmart Charities at the St. Johns Fair grounds to house animals. Residents can leave their animals there for care when leaving the area. If anyone has horses or cows that have to be moved, they have trailers available. Please call (928) 551-0803 to make arrangements. Donations, hay and pet food is also needed.

-A public information meeting will be held today at 4 p.m. at the Round Valley High School Auditorium.

The fire is currently at 143,000 acres and that figure is expected to increase later today. There is no containment and none is expected for several days. High winds and the potential for dry thunderstorms increase the risk of the fire spreading.

Reports indicate that many people are planning to leave towns in Round

Valley and elsewhere where the smoky conditions are becoming

intolerable. Dave Sherman with the White Mountain Outpost of the

Salvation Army said any evacuees are welcome at Blue Ridge Schools in

Lakeside at the Red Cross shelter. They can accommodate up to 150

people and are prepared to set up an additional shelter in Show Low if

it becomes necessary.
 
Just de-mobed my son's Hot Shot crew from the Bear fire in northern NM to the Wallow in Az today. They are throwing a lot of resources on this one, and it is gonna get a lot bigger.
 
I'm working out of Farmington right now and the amount of ash and smoke this far up just blows me away. Will be working out of Springerville on weds afternoon. Can hardly imagine how bad it is down there.
 
Fire is pushing 250,000 acres now. Red Flag warning in effect for High winds and low HR. This cali Hunter has been ordered up to assist. Very bad fire season for you folks....Heart broke for you guys. be there in about 12 hours to help out.


" I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks"
Daniel Boone
 
Worst part, 0% containment and more strong winds are on the way. Just nothing working out right for the fire fighters on this one so far!
 
Well, one this is certain: The Wallow fire will surpass the Rodeo-Chediski as the largest fire in Arizona history. At 311,000 acres and 0% contained, its inevitable. The only question now is....how big will it get?

Looking at the map, its got tons of fuel to the east, into New Mexico. Fuel will run out on the northern flanks. The western, southern and eastern flanks have unlimited growth potential.

Will we have our first 1,000,000 acre fire?? Dunno. Time will tell.

Pray that the monsoons come fast!!!! And they are wet storms right off the bat! Sad, sad, sad seeing some of the most beautiful country burn.
 
It makes my heart ach seeing one of the most beautiful places on earth burn like that.

Are the tree huggers all happy now? What should have been done to prevent this fire? Thinning the forest, logging, fire ban.
 
Wow. Me and just about every bow hunter I know just drew right across the border from Alpine for Elk. I cant even be mad because I know there are a lot of people hurting far beyond the cost of a tag. Dang though. It was such a great hunt last year.....
 
This fire is so huge it hard to understand the numbers they are putting out. But if you see the damage with your own eyes it becomes real in a hurry, I saw the Yellowstone fire and how much damage it did and how far it stretched and this fire makes that one look small.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
Just talked with forest service and 389,000 is correct. Lots of ash falling here in Springerville along with the smoke. Will post some pics in a little while. So dark in town at 2 p.m. that the street lights are on.
 
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5PM Wednesday: Firefighters pulled from Greer for safety reasons.

Media is reporting that portions of the Greer valley is on fire. Owner of the Molly Butler lodge indicating that fire has entered the southern Greer valley. Fire moving north. Sad!!!!! :(
 
Just got word that my sister's stepson that is some kind of a USFS fire fighter Supervisor out in Bear Lake, CA just got the call to head for NM! My prayers go out to all the people involved out there!!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-09-11 AT 11:24AM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jun-09-11 AT 11:23?AM (MST)

Anyone know if Sprucedale ranch is safe. I used to spend summers there when i was a kid. The Wiltbanks own the ranch. It's 42nm south (180 deg) of the St. John VORTAC.
Paul
"Nice Rack" Taxidermy
 
Nicerack, I heard that they lost 4 of the smaller cabins but not the main lodge. My brother is on the Sheriffs Department and he confirmed that. Pray for all the firefighters as well as the evacuees!!!!!!!!
Bobby

Backwoodsguides.com
 
Ca is sending the SUPERTANKER your way (Wallow fire) it will really put a hurting on the fire,It a converted DC-10 that can drop 12,000 gallon of fire retardant in 8 seconds. Good Luck guys.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
Here are a couple pix from Springerville. Sorry the quality probably isnt the best they are off my phone. Both looking east. 1 on hwy 60 just west of becker lake and the other at the west end of town. Both taken at midafternoon.
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I hunted 2B last year for pronghorn. Could not believe how high the grass was. I could not see an animal as hard as I tried in that stuff.
 
>No the Blue Primative Area has
>not yet burned south of
>the post office.


thanks, I watch that incident map linked above but not sure how accurate it is.
 
man this fire is bad news for everyone, I was hoping my favorite areas along the Blue river drainage would be spared doesn't look likeley. Time to do the rain dance.
 
>Does anyone know if the fire
>has entered unit C on
>the San Carlos Apache Reservation?
>


rez is mentioned in situation report at links in first 2 posts of this thread
 
It sounds like it's into the north end of the Reservation and the fire has now jumped the containment line on the northeast side in NM. The town of Luna is now under evacuation orders as of 3:15 PM.
 
How's the super tanker doing is it making a dent.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 

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