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New Mexico stared this trend a long time ago.As I’ve been saying all along, what Wyo is doing is creating a domino affect all across the Western US. Our nonres diy hunting heritage is disappearing as we know it. It’s sad to see Wyo being the first domino in line and watching others fall each year.
SS, Buzz, JM, and others… I wouldnt say this is something to boast, brag, and joke about! It truly is sad to see where hunting as we know it is headed! We can all thank Wyoming for being responsible for starting this off by closing nonres opportunity for the big 5. Wyo truly is one of the few western states that has been so kind to nonres and nonres opportunity over the years. Hopefully Wyo wakes up before it’s to late!
Which state is the next domino in line? If Wyo continues with 90/10 or 90/5/5 for e/d/a you can be guaranteed that it will speed up the dominos falling across the West! Mark my word, these are sad days for diy/oyo nonres hunters across the western US.
Exactly what I was going to say10% during the draw...fcfs is stand alone....quit crying
They don’t even have a 90/10 rule, they just have set aside quotas for NR in the draw, and those quotas aren’t necessarily 10%10% during the draw...fcfs is stand alone....quit crying
I’m a New Mexico resident, I don’t agree with this. National Forrest belongs to everybody, you’re paying just like I am for it’s upkeep and maintenance. You should have every right to hunt on that land. As far as a blue state, right now it is for sure. The problem with NM is the vast majority of the two million people who live here live in the few big democrat controlled cities like Albuquerque and Santa Fe and they get to decide for all of us. I would venture to say over 80% of this state is Conservative but the population is not enough to swing the votes. It’s like a map of the U.S. where you see all the counties in red but the population centers in blue, you just shake your head. As much as I love to hunt and removing people from the draw process would increase my odds this is not right in my book.This is just going to accelerate the loss of hunting all together, maybe not in a state like Wyoming which is deeply red but in blue New Mexico, if non-residents cant hunt are they going to care when the proposition or law is proposed to eliminate hunting? They won't, the only concerned people will be residents.
There won't be any outside donations or efforts to stop it. It's coming sooner than you think. Efforts to ban hunting of certain species were defeated in several states this year already by team efforts of the hunting community. Won't happen if the only people that are concerned are residents.
It will happen in California first, then Oregon, then other blue states. The directed, concentrated efforts are not going away.
Proceed at your own peril New Mexico hunters.
many many states have the same problem with the big population centers winning all they want….as a nation…thank God for the electoral college…..I’m a New Mexico resident, I don’t agree with this. National Forrest belongs to everybody, you’re paying just like I am for it’s upkeep and maintenance. You should have every right to hunt on that land. As far as a blue state, right now it is for sure. The problem with NM is the vast majority of the two million people who live here live in the few big democrat controlled cities like Albuquerque and Santa Fe and they get to decide for all of us. I would venture to say over 80% of this state is Conservative but the population is not enough to swing the votes. It’s like a map of the U.S. where you see all the counties in red but the population centers in blue, you just shake your head. As much as I love to hunt and removing people from the draw process would increase my odds this is not right in my book.
Washington is already first. Bear hunting already went bye-byeThis is just going to accelerate the loss of hunting all together, maybe not in a state like Wyoming which is deeply red but in blue New Mexico, if non-residents cant hunt are they going to care when the proposition or law is proposed to eliminate hunting? They won't, the only concerned people will be residents.
There won't be any outside donations or efforts to stop it. It's coming sooner than you think. Efforts to ban hunting of certain species were defeated in several states this year already by team efforts of the hunting community. Won't happen if the only people that are concerned are residents.
It will happen in California first, then Oregon, then other blue states. The directed, concentrated efforts are not going away.
Proceed at your own peril New Mexico hunters.
I stopped applying then as well. I enjoyed hunting in New Mexico.I stopped applying in New Mexico a while ago due to changes they made. I don't plan to hunt there in the future.
Can't wait for some anti hunting legislation to come up, and hear people saying how we need to rally around to stop it.
Non-Residents hunt in New Mexico every year. You not applying for hunts or sending your money to tree huggers won’t change the way NM does business one bit. Your loss….I stopped applying then as well. I enjoyed hunting in New Mexico.
There was a post here awhile back from a New Mexico resident, asking for help when proposed trapping ban was happening. No help from me.
I sent the money I used to sent to New Mexico to the group that stopped trapping there. They don't want non-residents. They are free to exclude us. And we are free to work against them instead of with them.
That's just ignorant in my opinion. No hunter or outdoorsman should support an anti group. They'll be at your doorstep next time aroundI stopped applying then as well. I enjoyed hunting in New Mexico.
There was a post here awhile back from a New Mexico resident, asking for help when proposed trapping ban was happening. No help from me.
I sent the money I used to sent to New Mexico to the group that stopped trapping there. They don't want non-residents. They are free to exclude us. And we are free to work against them instead of with them.
I don’t habitually play the Lottery, but when the buzz is good and people start talking about the 500 million dollar payout or so I will invest a few dollars at a chance. Somebody’s got to win.Like many, I dropped NM when they put higher quotas to the NR’s booking with the outfitters. The small percentage of tags going to DIY NR in NM was not worth my investment for low draw odds. Money is tight so I put it into other states where odds of drawing tags are better. I doubt NM misses my annual contributions when applications increase each year with plenty of people willing to play the low odds with their money. No loss for me and no loss for them. I still hunt each year somewhere so life is good.