Diesel prices soaring

[Togwotee]

You can't understand a problem if you're unwilling to look at what caused it. and keep in mind the entire world is feeling the same pain we are if not worse so get off this ignorant notion it's US politics driving prices up.

A bad economy always has a high unemployment aspect which we certainly do not . payrolls are up 428,000 and the jobless rate is steady as 3.6%. that is a red hot employment report.

Wages are up across the board, when McDonalds is paying $18 an hour that should alleviate some of the crying about inflation , and at the same time that's exactly what's helping drive inflation. you can't have your cake and eat it too and Americans always think there's someone to blame when it doesn't work.

Commodity prices are way up for a multitude of reasons . none of which we can control in the short term and not in the long term either unless we're ready to abandon capitalism . supply and demand set prices and we want more everything than the world can supply and we want it NOW. the worlds food and oil supply has been disrupted by a war and it will take a year to stabilize after the war ends. again, unless you want to abandon capitalism and pull a Nixon we'll have to endure it until the prices spur enough production to meet demand.

Anyone willing to debate the facts or do you already know I'm right? people like RELH know they can't argue the facts so they sit back and take cheap shots to avoid exposing how disingenuous they are to those too dumb to attempt an argument. just like our politicians do every day.

 

[Bluehair]

Died fuel is no longer around, its dead really. But dyed fuel is still alive and kicking.

Nice catch. My phone did it.

 

[Bluehair]

You can't understand a problem if you're unwilling to look at what caused it. and keep in mind the entire world is feeling the same pain we are if not worse so get off this ignorant notion it's US politics driving prices up.

A bad economy always has a high unemployment aspect which we certainly do not . payrolls are up 428,000 and the jobless rate is steady as 3.6%. that is a red hot employment report.

Wages are up across the board, when McDonalds is paying $18 an hour that should alleviate some of the crying about inflation , and at the same time that's exactly what's helping drive inflation. you can't have your cake and eat it too and Americans always think there's someone to blame when it doesn't work.

Commodity prices are way up for a multitude of reasons . none of which we can control in the short term and not in the long term either unless we're ready to abandon capitalism . supply and demand set prices and we want more everything than the world can supply and we want it NOW. the worlds food and oil supply has been disrupted by a war and it will take a year to stabilize after the war ends. again, unless you want to abandon capitalism and pull a Nixon we'll have to endure it until the prices spur enough production to meet demand.

Anyone willing to debate the facts or do you already know I'm right? people like RELH know they can't argue the facts so they sit back and take cheap shots to avoid exposing how disingenuous they are to those too dumb to attempt an argument. just like our politicians do every day.

It is naive to think government policies don’t interfere with free markets and disingenuous to argue they don’t. Tax policy is one example.

 

[Cooper]

You can't understand a problem if you're unwilling to look at what caused it. and keep in mind the entire world is feeling the same pain we are if not worse so get off this ignorant notion it's US politics driving prices up.

A bad economy always has a high unemployment aspect which we certainly do not . payrolls are up 428,000 and the jobless rate is steady as 3.6%. that is a red hot employment report.

Wages are up across the board, when McDonalds is paying $18 an hour that should alleviate some of the crying about inflation , and at the same time that's exactly what's helping drive inflation. you can't have your cake and eat it too and Americans always think there's someone to blame when it doesn't work.

Commodity prices are way up for a multitude of reasons . none of which we can control in the short term and not in the long term either unless we're ready to abandon capitalism . supply and demand set prices and we want more everything than the world can supply and we want it NOW. the worlds food and oil supply has been disrupted by a war and it will take a year to stabilize after the war ends. again, unless you want to abandon capitalism and pull a Nixon we'll have to endure it until the prices spur enough production to meet demand.

Anyone willing to debate the facts or do you already know I'm right? people like RELH know they can't argue the facts so they sit back and take cheap shots to avoid exposing how disingenuous they are to those too dumb to attempt an argument. just like our politicians do every day.

This started way before the war, if your going to enlighten us on world politics at least try

 

[Bigfoot 1]

U.S. politics drive the World. The better the U.S. Stock Market does the better the World does.

The U6 unemployment rate is 7%. Anybody can find any numbers on the internet to prove their point. The Government employs the best bean counters in the World and numbers are manipulated for various reasons.

Workers take account of price changes to protect and improve their purchasing power and standard of living. With a lower unemployment rate and thus more bargaining power, real wage growth will tend to rise. All industries have experienced wage growth, but the greatest effects are in the private sector, where compensation jumped 4.5% year over year during the final quarter of 2021.

Commodity prices are way up due to shortages and rising interest rates. Rising commodity prices suggest more inflation is on the way.

The vast majority of Americans don’t sit around the dinner table at night and talk about the aforementioned, they talk about feeding and clothing their kids, paying the rent and what bill they can skip this month in order to pay for gas to get them to work. Some of us are truly blessed, many more of us aren’t.

 

[eelgrass]

This goes way back before the "war". Remember when Democrats said it would be worth destroying the economy to get rid of Trump? Then praise God the plandemic hit and gave them an excuse. If they couldn't fix it, they never should have broke it to begin with. Now they blame Putin. Oh, and Capitalism. Just because I'm poor doesn't mean I'm dumb.

 

[wetmule]

This goes way back before the "war". Remember when Democrats said it would be worth destroying the economy to get rid of Trump? Then praise God the plandemic hit and gave them an excuse. If they couldn't fix it, they never should have broke it to begin with. Now they blame Putin. Oh, and Capitalism. Just because I'm poor doesn't mean I'm dumb.

Never let a crises go to waste is the motto......
They sure ain't gonna let one they manufactured go to waste.

The pandemic was the largest transfer of wealth from the lower classes to the elites in American history. Capitalism? We don't have capitalism, we have crony capitalism benefitting the ruling class & their friends. Shut down a 20+ trillion economy for a manufactured virus (that 98-99% deal with just fine) dumbest thing ever done in the history of America. How many small businesses destroyed forever? Of course the ones that weren't forced to shut down were essential. Pay people more money not to work than if they were working... real smart eh? Throw a wet blanket on the life blood of the economy. Funny how Tog in his musings never mentions the trillions the ruling class printed in just the last two years. What's the driver of skyrocketing inflation... hmmm I just can't seem to put my finger on it?

 

[2lumpy]

When was the last time you bought a diet coke there?

I just got back from town blue, I’m still good at the inflation free $1.08, can you spare a drink for a price sensitive old man?

While picking up my meds, I noticed bottled water was up another 11.34% this morning, so I guess I’ll have to settle for the water they pipe out the spring above the house.

 

[2lumpy]

You can't understand a problem if you're unwilling to look at what caused it. and keep in mind the entire world is feeling the same pain we are if not worse so get off this ignorant notion it's US politics driving prices up.

A bad economy always has a high unemployment aspect which we certainly do not . payrolls are up 428,000 and the jobless rate is steady as 3.6%. that is a red hot employment report.

Wages are up across the board, when McDonalds is paying $18 an hour that should alleviate some of the crying about inflation , and at the same time that's exactly what's helping drive inflation. you can't have your cake and eat it too and Americans always think there's someone to blame when it doesn't work.

Commodity prices are way up for a multitude of reasons . none of which we can control in the short term and not in the long term either unless we're ready to abandon capitalism . supply and demand set prices and we want more everything than the world can supply and we want it NOW. the worlds food and oil supply has been disrupted by a war and it will take a year to stabilize after the war ends. again, unless you want to abandon capitalism and pull a Nixon we'll have to endure it until the prices spur enough production to meet demand.

Anyone willing to debate the facts or do you already know I'm right? people like RELH know they can't argue the facts so they sit back and take cheap shots to avoid exposing how disingenuous they are to those too dumb to attempt an argument. just like our politicians do every day.

I guess I didn’t realize you where old enough to be a hold over from the Carter administration.

The wealthy do well when interest rates are high……. so…… as we look down this road we’re on, the wealthy are pretty optimistic……. wouldn’t you agree? No need to grow hay this year, put that operating cash in interest baring returns and let the pending interest rates soar……… lifes good, when you’re “good”.

Rest those fields and get ready for a Reagan type admin to make hay again!

 

[Homer]

$400 a ton alfalfa is better than interest bearing anything…..for at least a while

 

[eelgrass]

Never let a crises go to waste is the motto......
They sure ain't gonna let one they manufactured go to waste.

The pandemic was the largest transfer of wealth from the lower classes to the elites in American history. Capitalism? We don't have capitalism, we have crony capitalism benefitting the ruling class & their friends. Shut down a 20+ trillion economy for a manufactured virus (that 98-99% deal with just fine) dumbest thing ever done in the history of America. How many small businesses destroyed forever? Of course the ones that weren't forced to shut down were essential. Pay people more money not to work than if they were working... real smart eh? Throw a wet blanket on the life blood of the economy. Funny how Tog in his musings never mentions the trillions the ruling class printed in just the last two years. What's the driver of skyrocketing inflation... hmmm I just can't seem to put my finger on it?

Tog knows you're right. I just wish he would be honest for one time in his life, but he's packing their water.

 

[elkassassin]

And Who did dude Vote For!

The Same Guy That's Got Him & Everybody-else Bent Over!

 

[Buckhunter1955]

When I graduated high school in 1973 gas was about .40 cents a gallon and diesel was half that. I used to think I'd quit driving if gas ever reached $1.00 a gallon. I was also making $9.00 an hour setting chockers on a yarder right out of school. I thought I had the world by the balls, and look where we are now.

 

[Homer]

It's Putin's fault....solely

 

[Bluehair]

It's Putin's fault....solely

14% his fault.

The democrat platform calls for the elimination of fossil fuels, as POTUS reminded us every time he could remember to.

 

[Homer]

14% his fault.

The democrat platform calls for the elimination of fossil fuels, as POTUS reminded us every time he could remember to.

read above from our smartest and richest member if you don't believe me...

 

[Bluehair]

And Who did dude Vote For!

The Same Guy That's Got Him & Everybody-else Bent Over!

Confused yet?

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat", explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."[5] In a July 2015 interview, Trump said that he has a broad range of political positions and that "I identify with some things as a Democrat."[

 

[Homer]

Confused yet?

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat", explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."[5] In a July 2015 interview, Trump said that he has a broad range of political positions and that "I identify with some things as a Democrat."[

he was in the middle of not pissing off NYC and State democrats and slipping them plain brown envelopes....to keep the development green lights on.....

 

[Bluehair]

It’s pretty bad when this “liberal” has been a republican longer than the republican nominee ?

Thats a “yes”; I’m confused

 

[Bigfoot 1]

Confused yet?

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat", explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."[5] In a July 2015 interview, Trump said that he has a broad range of political positions and that "I identify with some things as a Democrat."[

 

[Bigfoot 1]

Maybe he evolved like Obama did on gay marriage or the democrat party did on slavery. Maybe….

 

[Cali4x4]

I am…….. for that…….and if Tog can spare me $1.08, I can buy a Diet Coke at McDonald’s.

You better buy that diet coke today. Who knows what it will cost tomorrow

 

[Togwotee]

Rather than fixate on conspiracy theories and fake news why not focus on facts.

There is a world shortage of damn near everything, labor being at the top of the list.

Demand for damn near everything is off the charts and people have the jobs and money to pay insane prices. who's tried to get a good deal on anything lately ? a pickup, an ATV, a tractor, a baler a boat you f'ing name it if you can find it at all you're going to pay dearly. evidence of a horrible economy ? WTF ever.

The war is driving food and fuel up big time. period. prove that untrue or STFU .

The Fed is raising interest rates to slow inflation and if they raise it enough it will work. it should have been done sooner but then the same mouth breathers crying about inflation would have had a chit hemorrhage over it.

Americans are spoiled entitled little biatches that's the truth of the matter. we want it all we want it now and we want it cheap. it's been 15 years since we've had a reality check and it's showing.

No more about diesel prices then I take it ? com'on now you were more fun before Rush croaked.

 

[DeerMadness]

For TogWaTee- it is far more our country's fault . And if you think we are doing so great with employment and wages just remember this - 1) we will be in a recession very soon and unemployment will rise . 2) We can't buy much with inflation and many businesses will shut down just as Covid has done to us already.
Dude you better go study history for a few days.

 

[Shadow]

How much did diesel prices increase from January 2021 up until the Russian invasion vs after the invasion?

 

[Homer]

Trump in no way gets a free pass on this inflation crisis......You can't fling Trillions of dollars out in the street to people that can't wait to spend it and not EXPECT prices to surge for things not being made fast enough.....

 

[Homer]

you have this going for you Tog....

‘Menstrual Dignity Act’ requires menstrual products in boys’ bathrooms

Conservatives are seeing red over a new Oregon law that requires menstrual products to also be offered inside boys bathrooms.

nypost.com

 

[elkassassin]

dude Lied!

I'm More than Sick of All the CHEAP Sh!t!

Take All Your CHEAP Trash Back To China With You!

You Can Tell dude Ain't in the Best Mood!

Tell Us Again Who You Voted For dude?

 

[2lumpy]

I’ll give Trump a break because he was at the mercy of the CDC, Fauci, the Legislature, and the news media and State’s lack of medical equipment. He got gaslit as far as I’m concerned. Trump also spent like a drunken sailer on the military…… because the military was totally depleted when he took office. He still has to take some responsibility but name a President that doesn’t have a leaking bucket when it comes to spending.

I’ll accept that my confirmation bias is as alive and well as anyone else’s.

 

[elkassassin]

I'm Guessin Even The Price of CROWN is Up!

 

[Homer]

I'm Guessin Even The Price of CROWN is Up!

not much...

 

[elkassassin]

Not Much?

Or Not Enough?

not much...

 

[NeMont]

Take advantage, I am willing to bet the "rich" don't really give two $hits right now what the interest rates are. I would suspect there is a lot of money going into shorting the housing market and right now also there is a ton of money long dollar. The dollar and fuel prices are very, very linked. Make some lemonade out of your lemons and keep those diesels burning.

One of my Army buddies sent me a text and today they are pay the equivalent of $8.25 per gallon for diesel

 

[2lumpy]

Come on BC, we all have our necessities…… that are exempt for inflationary pressures. I’m guessing a 300% increase in Crown wouldn’t alter consumption scale much. Kinda like the price of Dew at the County Fair………. Just saying……?

 

[elkassassin]

Howdy NeMont!

It's Been a While!

Take advantage, I am willing to bet the "rich" don't really give two $hits right now what the interest rates are. I would suspect there is a lot of money going into shorting the housing market and right now also there is a ton of money long dollar. The dollar and fuel prices are very, very linked. Make some lemonade out of your lemons and keep those diesels burning.

One of my Army buddies sent me a text and today they are pay the equivalent of $8.25 per gallon for diesel

 

[eelgrass]

Tog's right about one thing. Americans have no concept of frugal spending. People are rushing out to buy cars, especially electric cars, like they were rushing out to buy TP during the shutdown.

 

[elkassassin]

True Lumpy!

But I Don't Know If dude Has Found a Way To get the Guy He Voted For To Buy His CROWN!

But I'll Bet I'm Wrong!

Come on BC, we all have our necessities…… that are exempt for inflationary pressures. I’m guessing a 300% increase in Crown wouldn’t alter consumption scale much. Kinda like the price of Dew at the County Fair………. Just saying……?

 

[Bigfoot 1]

McDonald’s isn’t paying $18 an hour here in this great economy. This great economy has laid off half of our railroaders around town because they don’t have enough train traffic to justify keeping them. This great economy has raised diesel prices so high that a $1 burrito at Taco Box is now $2. The dairies are employing illegals, mostly Guatemalans, I know they don’t get $18 an hour in this great economy.

My family was in the market for two new vehicles but due to outrages laughable prices we’ve postponed those purchases for a year or two. I’m in the heart of farm and ranch country, we’ve got grain elevators full and cattle everywhere but in this great economy the prices are high.

I have yet to meet one person here that says, man I love this inflation, I’ve got so much money in my pocket and I just can’t spend it fast enough. You think prices will come back down to where they were before this Biden administration. I seriously doubt it. There will be more pain to come for the working class unfortunately. You can blame Trump, you can blame Rush, you can even blame RUSSIA but it doesn’t change the fact that Joke Biden is in charge, the buck stops with him, he has no plan for anything and is ultimately responsible for this mess. I don’t know what type of utopian world you live in but I would advise you to turn off msnbc and get a reality check.

 

[2lumpy]

True Lumpy!

But I Don't Know If dude Has Found a Way To get the Guy He Voted For To Buy His CROWN!

But I'll Bet I'm Wrong!

More power to him, if he has……… I haven’t heard of many of the “well to do” complaining about immigration, taxes, employment, inflation, China, Afghanistan withdrawal, woke military, Covid lock downs riots. Seems like most are like Tog……… drunk on prosperity. Not all that unusual…… would you say? No ox getting gored, I suspect.

 

[2lumpy]

McDonald’s isn’t paying $18 an hour here in this great economy. This great economy has laid off half of our railroaders around town because they don’t have enough train traffic to justify keeping them. This great economy has raised diesel prices so high that a $1 burrito at Taco Box is now $2. The dairies are employing illegals, mostly Guatemalans, I know they don’t get $18 an hour in this great economy.

My family was in the market for two new vehicles but due to outrages laughable prices we’ve postponed those purchases for a year or two. I’m in the heart of farm and ranch country, we’ve got grain elevators full and cattle everywhere but in this great economy the prices are high.

I have yet to meet one person here that says, man I love this inflation, I’ve got so much money in my pocket and I just can’t spend it fast enough. You think prices will come back down to where they were before this Biden administration. I seriously doubt it. There will be more pain to come for the working class unfortunately. You can blame Trump, you can blame Rush, you can even blame RUSSIA but it doesn’t change the fact that Joke Biden is in charge, the buck stops with him, he has no plan for anything and is ultimately responsible for this mess. I don’t know what type of utopian world you live in but I would advise you turn off msnbc and get a reality check.

This is normal Bigfoot……… it’s just been dormant for a couple years. It actually feels like a family reunion…….. after a good long pandemic…. .

 

[RELH]

Dude I will be the first to tell you that Trump is no saint, but he did more for the people in this country then Biden could hope to do. He also did it while fighting the Democrats tooth and nail as they were trying to get rid of him for up setting the apple cart.
As for the oil, it is traded just like the stock market. The price goes up and down when anyone does something, or says they will do something to slow the supply down. This is what happen when that idiot, sleepy Joe used his power to stop the flow in this country and making us depend on other countries to take up the slack.
As soon as sleepy Joe indicated he was going to curtail oil production, the price started jumping up long before Russia started their little war. If you can not see this, there is no help for your foggy brain influenced by your consumption of rotgut.
RELH

 

[hossblur]

You ever hear of supply and demand ? a better economy increases demand. look it up.

$50 a barrel isn't profitable for most oil producers so that's an unsustainable number. we'd need another orange loser to tank the economy again to ever see $50 oil. $75 is a number that works for producers and the public as well. and a 25% increase is no biggie then huh ? then stop crying.

I'm not a democrat but I'm not a dumb sheep either. before you blast your mouth off learn basic math or STFU big belly hunter. the total tax on diesel in OR is 58.5 cents . using British Columbia as an example it's 66.3 US cents per US gallon . that's a 7.8 cent difference to the nearest Canadian province. so I'm going to let you do the math on this one since you obviously need the practice, report back with an apology.

Sorry that in doing your math you missed the point. The cost in gas isn't the oil. It's the refinery. Gas isn't sold on the world commodity market.

Oil, requires large capital investment on the front end. Looking at a deep recession, caused 100% by inflation created this President and his policies, and the radical greenies in his admin, oil drillers are going to be very conservative expanding production.

Further, the gas tax will explode. Lots of EV on the roads and bridges paying zero for them, means someone needs to pay up.

Further still, Taxes are used as a deterrent. Oregon will follow California and start bumping gas taxes as a way to push EV.

Carry on

 

[hossblur]

$400 a ton alfalfa is better than interest bearing anything…..for at least a while

Until the left realizes the amount of diesel and water that goes into growing a crop to feed methane belching cows.

 

[Bluehair]

I just got back from town blue, I’m still good at the inflation free $1.08, can you spare a drink for a price sensitive old man?

While picking up my meds, I noticed bottled water was up another 11.34% this morning, so I guess I’ll have to settle for the water they pipe out the spring above the house.

Well, I confess to not going there here. Mainly because I don‘t like the layout of the driveway, not big truck friendly. But I do stop at the one in Kayenta on my way down to mom’s and I could swear the little one was in the $2 range. Outrageous I say.?

I wanna be drunk on prosperity.

 

[elkassassin]

Won't Be Long & CROWN Will Be Cheaper than Water!

 

[Bluehair]

you have this going for you Tog....

‘Menstrual Dignity Act’ requires menstrual products in boys’ bathrooms

Conservatives are seeing red over a new Oregon law that requires menstrual products to also be offered inside boys bathrooms.

nypost.com

Holy balls……

Look on the bright side. What could possibly go wrong with giving a bunch of adolescent males tampons? I can only imagine the dignified uses they come up with.

 

[eelgrass]

Won't Be Long & CROWN Will Be Cheaper than Water!

They're going to let more water out of Flaming Gorge.

This increase in releases is made pursuant to the 2022 Drought Response Operations Plan which was just approved by the Upper Division States, the Upper Colorado River Commission, and the Department of the Interior. The plan can be found at the following website: Upper Colorado Basin 2022 Drought Response Operations Plan. Under this plan, an additional 500 thousand acre-feet (kaf) will be delivered over the next 12 months (May 2022 through April 2023) to Lake Powell. This volume will be added to the spring period, increasing the Larval Trigger Study Plan releases to 8600 cfs for 7 days, a 3-day smallmouth bass flow spike (mid-late June, possibly earlier), as well as the summer-winter baseflow period, increasing base flow to an average daily releases to about 1,800 cfs. The spring release is dependent on a biological trigger .

The timing of the spring peak is based on a biological trigger from the endangered razorback sucker (RBS) rather than timing releases with the Yampa River peak. The timing of the releases will be dependent on light trapping efforts of razorback sucker larvae to determine when it is best to push the RBS into the wetlands. The mean calendar date of the first capture of razorback sucker larvae (i.e., the "larval trigger") is May 28 (median May 27) and ranges from May 7 to June 24. Historically, 50% of first captures occurred between May 21 and June 2; 75% occurred between May 16 and June 4. In general, first capture of larvae is earliest in years characterized by low flows and/or warmer conditions, and latest in years characterized by high flows and/or cooler conditions.

Flaming Gorge | Water Operations | UC Region | Bureau of Reclamation

Bureau of Reclamation - Managing water and power in the West

www.usbr.gov

 

[Cali4x4]

Holy balls……

Look on the bright side. What could possibly go wrong with giving a bunch of adolescent males tampons? I can only imagine the dignified uses they come up with.

Maybe they can put these in the girls restroom

 

[feddoc]

Nice catch. My phone did it.

My latest receipt for tractor diesel was $1.82/gallon, about 17 months ago.

Time to fill up the tank again.

 

[feddoc]

Maybe they can put these in the girls restroomView attachment 75880

So, how long does it take you to finish?


Cleaning, of course.

 

[2lumpy]

They're going to let more water out of Flaming Gorge.

This increase in releases is made pursuant to the 2022 Drought Response Operations Plan which was just approved by the Upper Division States, the Upper Colorado River Commission, and the Department of the Interior. The plan can be found at the following website: Upper Colorado Basin 2022 Drought Response Operations Plan. Under this plan, an additional 500 thousand acre-feet (kaf) will be delivered over the next 12 months (May 2022 through April 2023) to Lake Powell. This volume will be added to the spring period, increasing the Larval Trigger Study Plan releases to 8600 cfs for 7 days, a 3-day smallmouth bass flow spike (mid-late June, possibly earlier), as well as the summer-winter baseflow period, increasing base flow to an average daily releases to about 1,800 cfs. The spring release is dependent on a biological trigger .

The timing of the spring peak is based on a biological trigger from the endangered razorback sucker (RBS) rather than timing releases with the Yampa River peak. The timing of the releases will be dependent on light trapping efforts of razorback sucker larvae to determine when it is best to push the RBS into the wetlands. The mean calendar date of the first capture of razorback sucker larvae (i.e., the "larval trigger") is May 28 (median May 27) and ranges from May 7 to June 24. Historically, 50% of first captures occurred between May 21 and June 2; 75% occurred between May 16 and June 4. In general, first capture of larvae is earliest in years characterized by low flows and/or warmer conditions, and latest in years characterized by high flows and/or cooler conditions.

Flaming Gorge | Water Operations | UC Region | Bureau of Reclamation

Bureau of Reclamation - Managing water and power in the West

www.usbr.gov

Well, wasn’t that electrifying…,, good hell!

 

[Gator]

You all might look into buying up some rice and beans it going to get worse be you see sunshine again.
H#ll even a cup of soup already jumped in price.

 

[eelgrass]

Well, wasn’t that electrifying…,, good hell!

It's hard to imagine life without razorback sucker larvae.

 

[2lumpy]

It's hard to imagine life without razorback sucker larvae.

Time for Congress to establish an individual water use agency…….

They can use theirs to grow sucker larvae, I’ll use mine to grow beef and taters…….Blank can use his to grow jalapeños, Bobcat will use his for making Dew…….

 

[Homer]

Holy balls……

Look on the bright side. What could possibly go wrong with giving a bunch of adolescent males tampons? I can only imagine the dignified uses they come up with.

K-12???....even if your mental illness allowed you to think this was a good idea......wouldn't you target like 4-12??

 

[Bluehair]

At the risk of sounding like a Big Goobermint liberal AGAIN, you guys may be interpreting this rather narrowly.

The way I understand it, the release is to keep the turbines in Glenn Canyon operating this year. The timing of the releases is being coordinated to help the baby fishes.

Perhaps our resident water dude can clarify before my reputation suffers further.

 

[2lumpy]

At the risk of sounding like a Big Goobermint liberal AGAIN, you guys may be interpreting this rather narrowly.

The way I understand it, the release is to keep the turbines in Glenn Canyon operating this year. The timing of the releases is being coordinated to help the baby fishes.

Perhaps our resident water dude can clarify before my reputation suffers further.

I thought the same thing but it’s not right to given any credit……. It just embolden’em.

 

[Bluehair]

K-12???....even if your mental illness allowed you to think this was a good idea......wouldn't you target like 4-12??

You nay have misunderstood me. Just to clarify, the entire idea is batsh!t crazy even if it’s in the ADULT MENS room.

I also think male adolescence lasts well into adulthood.

 

[2lumpy]

There’s been a time…… oh never mind.

 

[Homer]

You nay have misunderstood me. Just to clarify, the entire idea is batsh!t crazy even if it’s in the ADULT MENS room.

I also think male adolescence lasts well into adulthood.

No No No....That wasn't aimed at you at all....I understood completely what you were saying.....I was talking about the Oregon law makers....

I am chuckling about your comment....14 year old boys could fill up days of stupidity with a sack full of tampons......lol

 

[eelgrass]

At the risk of sounding like a Big Goobermint liberal AGAIN, you guys may be interpreting this rather narrowly.

The way I understand it, the release is to keep the turbines in Glenn Canyon operating this year. The timing of the releases is being coordinated to help the baby fishes.

Perhaps our resident water dude can clarify before my reputation suffers further.

No, you're right but some would say keep the sucker alive and if there's any other benefit then that's okay too. It was mostly scary to me that we're trying to keep Lake Powell alive right after winter. Lake Powell is in trouble.

 

[OutdoorWriter]

No No No....That wasn't aimed at you at all....I understood completely what you were saying.....I was talking about the Oregon law makers....

I am chuckling about your comment....14 year old boys could fill up days of stupidity with a sack full of tampons......lol

You should see what a bunch of bored college freshmen can do with a sack full of condoms.

When I attended the Univ. of Dayton in 1960, all the on-campus housing was full. So all freshmen were housed on the upper floors in the Gibbon's Hotel, which was downtown.

On returning from the Thanksgiving holiday break, a couple guys from Gross Pointe, MI tore the condom machine off the wall of a gas station restroom & threw it into the trunk of the car. Inside were hundreds of condoms that quickly became our winter entertainment. Filled with water, they made excellent little bombs to be dropped from the windows on to the pedestrian & vehicle traffic on Brown St. That lasted until the Dayton police made a visit to the hotel & threatened to search every room.

 

[Cooper]

Rather than fixate on conspiracy theories and fake news why not focus on facts.

There is a world shortage of damn near everything, labor being at the top of the list.

Demand for damn near everything is off the charts and people have the jobs and money to pay insane prices. who's tried to get a good deal on anything lately ? a pickup, an ATV, a tractor, a baler a boat you f'ing name it if you can find it at all you're going to pay dearly. evidence of a horrible economy ? WTF ever.

The war is driving food and fuel up big time. period. prove that untrue or STFU .

The Fed is raising interest rates to slow inflation and if they raise it enough it will work. it should have been done sooner but then the same mouth breathers crying about inflation would have had a chit hemorrhage over it.

Americans are spoiled entitled little biatches that's the truth of the matter. we want it all we want it now and we want it cheap. it's been 15 years since we've had a reality check and it's showing.

No more about diesel prices then I take it ? com'on now you were more fun before Rush croaked.

Most balers and swathers are close to the same price they were 2 years ago, don’t mention those if you don’t actually know

 

[elkassassin]

I Don't Remember it Being that Cheap Even 17 Months ago!

And You Can't Run Tractor Fuel in KALI in Your F-350!

My latest receipt for tractor diesel was $1.82/gallon, about 17 months ago.

Time to fill up the tank again.

 

[Homer]

California dyed diesel…..you can do the math

 

[elkassassin]

Is a Unit a Gallon?

Or a Quart in KALI?

California dyed diesel…..you can do the math
View attachment 75893

 

[eelgrass]

California dyed diesel…..you can do the math
View attachment 75893

About $5.09

I have an account there.

 

[Homer]

About $5.09

I have an account there.

what's the account number?

 

[eelgrass]

what's the account number?

of mine? 876476. What's yours?

 

[elkassassin]

Hey Homer!

I Think His Account Number is The Same As yours!

what's the account number?

 

[2lumpy]

of mine? 876476. What's yours?

That took eel less than five minutes homer….. what’s keeping you…..

 

[eelgrass]

what's the account number?

I'll post my bill when I get it. It should be here any day. It should be less than yours.

 

[notdonhunting]

Togwotee
Biden announced yesterday that he is going to start buying back oil to refill the US Strategic Oil Reserves. How is that going to effect the price of oil when we are going into the summer months of driving and traveling.

 

[customweld]

When I graduated high school in 1973 gas was about .40 cents a gallon and diesel was half that. I used to think I'd quit driving if gas ever reached $1.00 a gallon. I was also making $9.00 an hour setting chockers on a yarder right out of school. I thought I had the world by the balls, and look where we are now.

Setting chokers was a hard way to make a living. Run in for your job and run out for your life!
My first job out of high school was hooking tongs underneath a jammer. If you had a guy that knew how throw tongs, it was easy.

 

[wetmule]

Probably going to get much worse. Not sure how this will affect diesel inventory on the west coast but it can't be good. June, July & beyond is gonna suk

 

[LIK2HNT]

California dyed diesel…..you can do the math
View attachment 75893

They don’t charge you the Ag sales tax, or is it worked into your cost per gallon?
Propane here in CA is almost $8 a gallon to fill wind machines last month.

 

[Homer]

They don’t charge you the Ag sales tax, or is it worked into your cost per gallon?
Propane here in CA is almost $8 a gallon to fill wind machines last month.

it's in there....prices are broken down on the invoices....not the statement

 

[eelgrass]

I burned almost 22 gallons of gas last month but that included one clamming trip and two surf perch fishing trips. We only have one vehicle and I always enter a different odometer reading. My MPG gets weird....lol

 

[Togwotee]

Oil prices don't effect the price of gas ? um....O'Tay. well yes I agree the refineries are making a killing but doubling the price of oil does have a distinct effect on gas prices. so that means Biden should set the price of oil and regulate refinery profits ? that should prove very popular with capitalists.

Fuel prices will continue to rise as Europe is about to agree to a full Oil ban from Russia. but maybe Biden can pull a quick and easy fix out of his azz as you say Trump would have. or, if you don't like the price of gas why not tell us what the orange man would have done I'd like to hear that. well, I mean other than hand Ukraine to Putie that would work, but that wouldn't even fly with Lindsey Graham so what's plan B ?.

RELH other than turning 100 last year I see nothing has changed, you're just as bright and delightful as ever.

 

[eelgrass]

It's funny how the world rallied around the virus to screw with the economy. Even funnier how the world is rallying around Ukraine to help keep the economy from recovering. As soon as the printing presses catch up, I'm sure Brandon will be flying a C-130 load of cash to help. Russia should collapse any day now.

Russia’s economy is back on its feet

There's a reason for its resilience

www.economist.com

 

[RELH]

Dude, someone has to keep you half way honest. We gave up on the other half. Have another swig and drop us a line. we need the laughs.
RELH

 

[Bigfoot 1]

Oil prices don't effect the price of gas ? um....O'Tay. well yes I agree the refineries are making a killing but doubling the price of oil does have a distinct effect on gas prices. so that means Biden should set the price of oil and regulate refinery profits ? that should prove very popular with capitalists.

Fuel prices will continue to rise as Europe is about to agree to a full Oil ban from Russia. but maybe Biden can pull a quick and easy fix out of his azz as you say Trump would have. or, if you don't like the price of gas why not tell us what the orange man would have done I'd like to hear that. well, I mean other than hand Ukraine to Putie that would work, but that wouldn't even fly with Lindsey Graham so what's plan B ?.

RELH other than turning 100 last year I see nothing has changed, you're just as bright and delightful as ever.

Russia didn’t enter Ukraine when Trump was President, North Korea was on their best behavior along with Iraq, Afghanistan and China. Mexico and Central America were actually slowing down the flow of illegal aliens into the U.S. Countries were actually starting to pay their fair share of NATO, Stocks were soaring, gas was a lot cheaper, employment for blacks, Hispanics and other minorities were at an all time high, store shelves were full, baby formula and toilet paper were plentiful, this country was booming, the World was better off AND Trump did not get us into ONE WAR the entire time he was President, not one! Coincidence?
democrats poison everything they touch…

 

[Longun]

just got back from Germany a couple weeks ago...Diesel is 10.00 a gal...(our standards) BUT their rigs average 35-40 mile to the gallon...So it's not all of Putin's fault..thank our American Auto makers...

 

[LIK2HNT]

just got back from Germany a couple weeks ago...Diesel is 10.00 a gal...(our standards) BUT their rigs average 35-40 mile to the gallon...So it's not all of Putin's fault..thank our American Auto makers...

A lot has to do to EPA and political deals with other countries. That’s why we could never get those Toyota diesel years ago.

 

[Longun]

My wife shipped a Toyota Diesel Pick-up to the states in 1992...we run that sucker for over 20 years....sold it to a guy from Salt Lake City for $500.00. The guy was gonna re-build the motor and put it in a Dune-Buggy...

 

[Togwotee]

Bigfoot are you trying to be funny or was that serious ? either way it's funny I love satire.

Um...didn't the orange man roll back the fuel economy standards ? we wouldn't want to push technology would we, the Kitty Hawk will do just fine why push it.

 

[Bigfoot 1]

Bigfoot are you trying to be funny or was that serious ? either way it's funny I love satire.

Um...didn't the orange man roll back the fuel economy standards ? we wouldn't want to push technology would we, the Kitty Hawk will do just fine why push it.

Prove one thing I wrote above wrong. You can’t, it’s all verifiably true. We get it, you don’t like Trump, I don’t like democrats but you can’t say this biden administration has done better for this country than Trump did. Can you?

 

[Grayback]

I’m not sure where you live, but I certainly had a hard time buying toilet paper during the end of the Trump presidency.

 

[Shadow]

Might have had a hard time finding toilet paper during the end of the Trump presidency but at least you could afford fuel to drive to another store to look for some.

 

[Grayback]

So, you agree that I was right. Cool.

 

[Shadow]

And…you agree fuel was affordable before joe. Cool.

 

[Bigfoot 1]

I’m not sure where you live, but I certainly had a hard time buying toilet paper during the end of the Trump presidency.

We didn’t have that problem. We’re not full of S*&+ like some are.
? ?

 

[Grayback]

We didn’t have that problem. We’re not full of S*&+ like some are.
? ?

Got to love New Mexico.

 

[Bigfoot 1]

You may be right.

 

[Togwotee]

You assume I like Biden , I don't . he's a typical Robin Hood wimpy democrat. if he had any balls he'd put an AG in office who'd take down the orange insurrectionist and his merry band of fairy's.

He is talking forgiving student debt, dumbest thing you could think of if you tried. as a typical democrat would do he's filling his administration with people based on how diverse they are rather than how qualified they are. though many are both. But given the Mango Mussolini as the option poor 'ol Joe is a rock star plain and simple. we still have a democracy for now that's something any real American should be thankful for.

As far as what King Cheetos did for the country, you tell me because I'm assuming you're talking about what he did for the better and I'd like to hear that. there was something but I can't remember what. maybe it was getting Mexico to pay for the beautiful wall was that it ? HA!

 

[JPickett]

You watch too much TV

 

[Bigfoot 1]

You assume I like Biden , I don't . he's a typical Robin Hood wimpy democrat. if he had any balls he'd put an AG in office who'd take down the orange insurrectionist and his merry band of fairy's.

He is talking forgiving student debt, dumbest thing you could think of if you tried. as a typical democrat would do he's filling his administration with people based on how diverse they are rather than how qualified they are. though many are both. But given the Mango Mussolini as the option poor 'ol Joe is a rock star plain and simple. we still have a democracy for now that's something any real American should be thankful for.

As far as what King Cheetos did for the country, you tell me because I'm assuming you're talking about what he did for the better and I'd like to hear that. there was something but I can't remember what. maybe it was getting Mexico to pay for the beautiful wall was that it ? HA!

I posted a plethora of things above that were better under Trump than they are now under Joke biden and you haven’t refuted one of them.

Trump signed the most significant conservation and recreation funding in U.S. history, providing $20 billion to fix and conserve the American peoples public lands. Trump made an additional 4+ million acres accessible to new hunting and fishing opportunities. What has Joke biden done for the outdoorsman? I’ll wait.

I can name many more but there’s no use, your hatred for Trump has blinded you. biden has a much better border wall and border policy than Trump correct? ?

Inflation is 8.3% and it’s not going to get better anytime soon. We can revisit this epic failure of an administration throughout the year if you like. The worse is yet to come.

 

[Beendare]

If its Russia's fault, why is it that in December of 2020 crude oil was $49.99 a barrel, but a year later after a year of Brandon, the price was $74.17??? A 50% jump in a year BEFORE the Ukrainian invasion?

Yep, when folks finally understand the reality, they will be pissed. Biden policy drove up Putins profits so he could afford to invade Ukraine…then Putin knew the invasion was good for another $30-$40 a barrel pure profit.

Are there still folks that believe Biden when he blames OFF THE CHART inflation, crime and oil on everyone else?

<face palm> The IQ of the avg Dem voter is disappointing.

 

[wetmule]

You watch too much TV

Must be “The View” the cringe squawking hosts know less than nothing & he sounds just like them

 

[elkassassin]

Who'd You Vote For dude?

You assume I like Biden , I don't . he's a typical Robin Hood wimpy democrat. if he had any balls he'd put an AG in office who'd take down the orange insurrectionist and his merry band of fairy's.

He is talking forgiving student debt, dumbest thing you could think of if you tried. as a typical democrat would do he's filling his administration with people based on how diverse they are rather than how qualified they are. though many are both. But given the Mango Mussolini as the option poor 'ol Joe is a rock star plain and simple. we still have a democracy for now that's something any real American should be thankful for.

As far as what King Cheetos did for the country, you tell me because I'm assuming you're talking about what he did for the better and I'd like to hear that. there was something but I can't remember what. maybe it was getting Mexico to pay for the beautiful wall was that it ? HA!