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Somehow got extremely lucky and hit for Boulder muzzy elk as a NR. Still a little shocked and hasn't quite sunk in.

I'll try to get some pictures up this week. I haven't been on MM over the holidays. I did end up going guided and had a fun hunt. I got a buck that I was really happy with.

RE: Arizona Supplemental Hunter Education class for NR's on January 7, 2017 in Kingman Guys, I encourage you to take the class. It was very informative and Don and Jim do a great job. There was a great cross-section of hunters when I was there and some great discussion was had. I drew a 12B...

Thanks for the advice guys, I've got calls in to most of the folks that were mentioned. I'm still debating in my head about going guided. I know I need to decide very soon before the good outfitters are booked up.

I was very happy to learn that I drew a 12B West Late rifle tag. I'm a diy guy and haven't went outfitted or guided before. With this tag I was thinking of going guided. Any suggestions from the board on quality outfitters for this hunt?

Elkextreme, I drew the same tag and haven't hunted the unit before either. I'm going to head down a week early to get my scouting in as fire season will limit my scouting this summer. Send me a pm if you want to share notes. I'm planning on hunting closer to the AZ border above Luna as I know...

Thanks for the info Hank.

How's the weather generally during this hunt? Worth bringing a camper from South Dakota or easier just to tent it? I'm leaning towards just tenting it. Good luck to everyone that drew and send me a pm if anyone has any questions about the 2nd 2B deer hunt as I had it a couple years ago.

Drew Unit 15 2nd Season Muzzleloader as 3rd choice, first time hunting elk in NM so I'm excited. Also have a WY General tag so will be a fun fall.

Just wanted to say thanks to Don Martin and Jim Rich for teaching the non-resident supplemental in Kingman last weekend. I know all the guys in class enjoyed it and learned a ton from the class. Don's wife made a great lunch too. I heartily recommend anybody serious about hunting in Arizona...

Couesmagnet, I think you've misunderstood the intent of this thread. It was intended to promote discussion on this topic. Notice the question mark in the title. I'm sure that all the people you have mentioned above have done great things for wildlife and I commend them for that. I would...

My issue isn't so much with the bill, as poorly written as it was. It's the secrecy and lack of transparency that is alarming. If there's actual benefit from the bill for Arizona hunters and wildlife, it should be debated and discussed in a spirited, but reasoned manner. Why was it hid from...

LAST EDITED ON Jan-16-12 AT 10:40PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jan-16-12 AT 08:28?PM (MST) Very well said Couesmagnet. That's my issue with this whole mess. Why did AZ SFW push this behind closed doors. I have nothing personal against either Green or Denham, but someone needs to be held...

Beanman, there aren't newspaper articles about this SFW Arizona back-door deal. A quick synopsis as I understand it: AZ SFW drafted a law to put forth to the AZ legislature and took approximately 350 premium tags out of the draws and auction or raffle them off (also would have created an expo...

Maybe give us your rationale why not supporting these businesses is crazy and silly? I realize they are probably the biggest advertisers on your site, but then just state that fact. I have no problem with you profiting from their advertising, but don't act like that's not why you wrote the...

That's fine that they claim they are not associated with the Utah SFW. They tried to pull a back-room deal to set up an expo just like the Utah SFW tag grab. This group may actually be worse than the Utah SFW since they pushed the legislation as an emergency. What a joke! Floyd Green and...

Was this Sportsmen for Wildlife group the sponsor of the auction tag bill that started this whole mess in Arizona?

WapitiBob, I agree with what your saying about Hatfield's magazine. Denham needs to be off the editorial board before I would consider subscribing. Like I said before, I think Ryan Hatfield is a stand-up guy and one heck of an editor.

I did read Ryan Hatfield's response in a forum listed in a link above. I think he's an honest guy and appreciated his work in Eastmans' Hunting Journal. That being said with Denham and Green behind "Elk Hunter" (monetarily at least) as well, I should have included that magazine in the above...

LAST EDITED ON Jan-15-12 AT 03:06PM (MST)[p]What does the group think about not supporting the Outdoorsman's store, Wilderness Athlete and Western Hunter due to Floyd Green's and Chris Denham's support of the AZ SFW tag grab boondoggle. I have bought many things from both WA and Outdoorsman's...

Thanks for the great info. I'm not so much worried about the winter kill as those antelope are tough critters. If the bucks are putting all their energy in staying alive, they're not putting it into the horns. Let's hope it's easy on them through the spring.

I agree about the next two months. Just trying to make an educated guess on the winter's effect on top horn growth for this year's bucks. I've seen it many times in western South Dakota and even in Oregon where I'm at now. If it's a tough winter, they do not put on the top mass and length as on...

Was seeing if any of the Wyoming posters in the Lander area had a feel for this winter's affect on antelope in the area. Have waited to draw till this year with max points and now if it's a hard winter, I may wait another year to draw out. I know it's a long shot, but I've got quite a few nice...

>So what are they trying to >market? It takes decades to >draw the good tags now. >Are they trying to push >over the counter tags so >there are 100 people in >every drainage instead of the >50 that are there now. >Can't see how this is >about improving the hunting experience. >Must be...

Anybody got one of these to check out yet? They don't seem that much lighter than their 65 spotter. The price tag seems very reasonable though if it's good glass.

Points only is available after July 1st and ends September 15, I believe. I know it opens far earlier than September 1 as a previous poster stated.

I can not believe it, I drew a 105 moose tag in Montana. Last year I was lucky enough to drew a 1-1 moose tag in Idaho. I'm psyched to go Shiras hunting again as last year was a hunt of a lifetime and I get to do it again! Good luck to everyone else on their Montana and Arizona draws.

This part of the hunt ended up with me not getting a moose this go around. I hunted for 15 1/2 days and saw over 20 bulls. I ran into a shooter bull the second morning of the hunt, but he got into the timber before I could get a shot off. I did not see another really good bull the rest of the...

It's finally time to head to Idaho in the morning for the 1-1 moose hunt. Hopefully the weather turns a bit colder in a few days. Good luck on your Washington hunt Shane. Hopefully I can post pics when I'm lucky enough to get one of those big old moosies.

You are correct that one manufacturer supplies almost all glass to the top manufacturers. It is Schott Glass Works which is actually owned by Zeiss. I just ordered the Leica Geovid 10 x 42 from Cameraland and that is a smoking deal they are offering. If you call them they are offering even a...

>If you're referring to a beef >steak that you bought at >a store... you're right it >would go brown if you >let it sit in your >fridge for 21 days. The >meat has already been aged >before you bought it. If >you had killed the cow >yourself, you would be fine >to age it for 21 >days...

Neil called me yesterday and I have mine ordered. I'm bummed because they won't be here in Oregon in time for my Idaho moose hunt. I still think it's a smoking good deal though. For you guys that have looked through both the HD and non-HD Geovids is there a discernible difference?

Anybody heading after the swamp donkeys tomorrow? I'm getting ready to leave on the 23rd and I'm amped up to say the least! Hopefully the weather will cooperate and the rut will be in full swing when I'm up there. Good luck to everyone on their Idaho moose hunts this year.

Has anyone seen how the horn growth has been on the moose in the panhandle? I'm getting excited as the hunt is only 2 months away! Does anyone know of a good moose calling video for shiras? I've been practicing and my neighbor thinks there's something wrong in my head. Thanks for the pm's...

I've been out there a few times this summer. I have seen a ton of goats, but have not seen an 80" goat yet. I did see a decent goat west of shirk ranch. PM me if you want more info, I don't know exactly where the east/west beatty's butte boundary line is, but I did see many small herds of...

I will be going solo without horses. I was looking at Google Earth and the area north of upper priest did pique my interest, so to be honest I haven't picked an area to concentrate on yet. I plan to arrive on Sept. 25 and hunt until Oct. 10, if I do not tag out, then I'll come back later in the...

I've been lurking for a long time on here and finally drew a tag worth talking about. I drew the long season 1-1 moose tag in the panhandle. Does anybody know if there are any packers in the area that could help a guy out? Are there any good meat processors in the area? Any other moose hunting...

I was looking at getting a new rangefinder and ran across Zeiss's PRF. Has anybody had a chance to use one yet and how did they think it compared to the Leica's?

Keep the leftover drawing the way it is. It gives a little more money to the state and everybody a another chance at a tag.

Keep it the way it is. $6.25 per species isn't a lot of money and if the fish and game put it to good use, it raises a little more money for them.