Alert Monster Muleys Buyer
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Soj51hopeful
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Something founder should be alerted to?
elkassassin
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Somebody That Really Doesn't Have The Gun You're Looking For But They're Gonna Sell It To You Anyway?
elkantlers
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Will you check on @elkassassin
hossblur
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WTF?
I been selling plasma for 2 weeks to buy this puppy and now I find it's not for sale?
willfrye027
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WTB adds are a magnet for scammers. They’ll photoshop/AI some BS pics and unfortunately they are getting better and better at it..
notdonhunting
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Luckily I am too poor to be scammed.
2lumpy
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Hmmmmm, on the contrary notdon, it’s us poor guys are the most vulnerable……… and those SOB’s prey on the weak and wounded…….
notdonhunting
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But I think all people are good and honest, no one would do something like that.
2lumpy
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I’ve been thinking about this more, since this encounter. I have seen at least a half dozen other attempts by scammers on MM and started to think back on this experience and others I’ve seen.
There are usually, but always, tell tail things I’ve noticed these scammers do, that when seen, our senses need to kick in.
1. You post that your looking to purchase something of considerable cost.
2. A member responds that he has what you want.
3. In this case, I got a message on my PM. (To an avoid scrutiny by the rest of the membership, I suppose.) from that point on he wanted to email.
4. He used a regular name on the email. He sent pictures. I asked him were he was from. He gave a Midwest State. He knew I was from Utah, too far to drive for a face to face transaction.
5. He had a few (10 total) post from 2023. Most were just Congrats sent to suggestful hunters. 2 or 3 rather lengthy posts about his hunts, questions asked and answer give by MM members but never answered. (His reason , I suspect was to establish a common relationship and therefore trust.)
6. I’m dyslexic so I almost aways screw up my posts by leaving words out, parts of words out, getting two words reversed etc. That’s not what I’ve seen on these scammers posts, it’s more like broken English, and it gives a sense of an odd English writing style. This guy’s was quite subtle but when I read it, actually looking for that style, it was there, but it was subtle. I had to read it a couple of times to pick it up.
7. The price offered was too cheap, for what the pictures represented. It was too good to be true. Had he offered it for a third more I may gone with it. The price is what made me suspicious initially, from there it grew stronger as I started looking further into the offer.
8. I checked his MM posts. I looked at his account to see how many posts he had made, only 10, I looked for any pictures he had posted, there were zero. His posts, were kind of odd. In one he said he was from Idaho, in his email to me he said he was in Illinois . Mmmmm.
9. I took another look at the pictures he email me. He said the rifle was a safe queen but the picture showed it in the original box with the bubble wrap under it.
10. He used a normal name on his email, not Kain467. I Googled the name, only one came up, and the profile give didn’t fit my impression of this guy. Also, it wasn’t from anyone in Illinois.
11. That made me think, I wonder if he got those pictures off Google. So……. I Google the description he sent me. BAM, as soon as I hit search, up came International Guns website and there were the pictures. All Kain467 had done was cope and paste and rotate one image 90 degrees, counterclock wise. It was an exact match. I then say it was offered from a place called Jake’s Guns, from 2018. The guy said he bought it new, a one year ago.
I think the honest old and reliable adage “if it looks to good to be true, it most likely is”.
For what it’s worth.
There are usually, but always, tell tail things I’ve noticed these scammers do, that when seen, our senses need to kick in.
1. You post that your looking to purchase something of considerable cost.
2. A member responds that he has what you want.
3. In this case, I got a message on my PM. (To an avoid scrutiny by the rest of the membership, I suppose.) from that point on he wanted to email.
4. He used a regular name on the email. He sent pictures. I asked him were he was from. He gave a Midwest State. He knew I was from Utah, too far to drive for a face to face transaction.
5. He had a few (10 total) post from 2023. Most were just Congrats sent to suggestful hunters. 2 or 3 rather lengthy posts about his hunts, questions asked and answer give by MM members but never answered. (His reason , I suspect was to establish a common relationship and therefore trust.)
6. I’m dyslexic so I almost aways screw up my posts by leaving words out, parts of words out, getting two words reversed etc. That’s not what I’ve seen on these scammers posts, it’s more like broken English, and it gives a sense of an odd English writing style. This guy’s was quite subtle but when I read it, actually looking for that style, it was there, but it was subtle. I had to read it a couple of times to pick it up.
7. The price offered was too cheap, for what the pictures represented. It was too good to be true. Had he offered it for a third more I may gone with it. The price is what made me suspicious initially, from there it grew stronger as I started looking further into the offer.
8. I checked his MM posts. I looked at his account to see how many posts he had made, only 10, I looked for any pictures he had posted, there were zero. His posts, were kind of odd. In one he said he was from Idaho, in his email to me he said he was in Illinois . Mmmmm.
9. I took another look at the pictures he email me. He said the rifle was a safe queen but the picture showed it in the original box with the bubble wrap under it.
10. He used a normal name on his email, not Kain467. I Googled the name, only one came up, and the profile give didn’t fit my impression of this guy. Also, it wasn’t from anyone in Illinois.
11. That made me think, I wonder if he got those pictures off Google. So……. I Google the description he sent me. BAM, as soon as I hit search, up came International Guns website and there were the pictures. All Kain467 had done was cope and paste and rotate one image 90 degrees, counterclock wise. It was an exact match. I then say it was offered from a place called Jake’s Guns, from 2018. The guy said he bought it new, a one year ago.
I think the honest old and reliable adage “if it looks to good to be true, it most likely is”.
For what it’s worth.
2lumpy
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And that is exactly what makes you a target, my friend.
At this very moment, SOBs everywhere are licking their chops. Clearly you and I need a napkin lunch!!!
elkassassin
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It's Sad To Say & See!
But We've Seen A Few Scammers Here On MM Over The Years!
There's One In Particular That Keeps Showing Up & I Haven't Seen Him In The MM Classifieds In A While!
I Think He Even Screwed Homer Over Once & That Ain't An Easy Task! (Payback Is A Real Bittch!)
I Can't Believe He Keeps Scamming People Here On MM!
I Had One Here Recently That I Thought Something Was Up?
No Transactions Were Made and I Think Everything Was Legit!
And For You elkantlers You Might Wanna Ask Around Here A Little & Find Out How Many Times I've JACKED Somebody Around!
But We've Seen A Few Scammers Here On MM Over The Years!
There's One In Particular That Keeps Showing Up & I Haven't Seen Him In The MM Classifieds In A While!
I Think He Even Screwed Homer Over Once & That Ain't An Easy Task! (Payback Is A Real Bittch!)
I Can't Believe He Keeps Scamming People Here On MM!
I Had One Here Recently That I Thought Something Was Up?
No Transactions Were Made and I Think Everything Was Legit!
And For You elkantlers You Might Wanna Ask Around Here A Little & Find Out How Many Times I've JACKED Somebody Around!
elkassassin
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Another One To Watch For Is This:
Several Years Ago I Sold Some Items On KSL!
After The Sale Which Was Legit I Get A Message Asking If I Have More From Somebody-Else?
Yup,I've Got More!
They Were Pushy For My Address & I Knew Something Was Up!
They Found My Address on The Web Somehow,I Never Gave It To Them!
A Few Days Later I Get A Check In The Mail after I Told Them USPS MONEY ORDERS ONLY!
After Checking In To It,It was The NIGERIAN SCAM Which I Still Don't Know How That Works?
I've Still Got Their F'N Check Somewhere!
Be Careful Guys!
Several Years Ago I Sold Some Items On KSL!
After The Sale Which Was Legit I Get A Message Asking If I Have More From Somebody-Else?
Yup,I've Got More!
They Were Pushy For My Address & I Knew Something Was Up!
They Found My Address on The Web Somehow,I Never Gave It To Them!
A Few Days Later I Get A Check In The Mail after I Told Them USPS MONEY ORDERS ONLY!
After Checking In To It,It was The NIGERIAN SCAM Which I Still Don't Know How That Works?
I've Still Got Their F'N Check Somewhere!
Be Careful Guys!
Bluehair
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Elkassassassin thinks getting a check in the mail is a scam? Must be nice to have that plumber money 
7500 posts to butter you goobers up and establish trust. Almost there
I got the phony phishing text the other day. It said “hey, just got a new number, how you been”
Me: Wow, what a coincidence…..I just got out a couple weeks ago. After 12 long years, im glad to be out.…. a lot of lost time to makeup. Send me your address …..I have some things I need you to help me with.
Haven’t heard anything back.
7500 posts to butter you goobers up and establish trust. Almost there
I got the phony phishing text the other day. It said “hey, just got a new number, how you been”
Me: Wow, what a coincidence…..I just got out a couple weeks ago. After 12 long years, im glad to be out.…. a lot of lost time to makeup. Send me your address …..I have some things I need you to help me with.
Haven’t heard anything back.
2lumpy
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A few years ago back when the telephone calls were from actual people, I got a charge out of tormenting them in special ways. I was having fun………. Then a guy called me and I pissed him off. He started researching my history (the internet that a lot, including your kids, wife, your address, your kids address, your picture, you grandkids Facebook pictures, their addresses and their school etc.) His calls got more and more informed and threatening.
After 4 or 5 calls I decided to back off and look for other ways to entertain myself. Seems like that was about when I first logged into MM.
After 4 or 5 calls I decided to back off and look for other ways to entertain myself. Seems like that was about when I first logged into MM.
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