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Refreshing every 30 mins over here ?I wonder how many people have looked at this thread just waiting for the “I got hit”
Refreshing every 30 mins over here ?I wonder how many people have looked at this thread just waiting for the “I got hit”
Every 10 minutes!I wonder how many people have looked at this thread just waiting for the “I got hit”
Haha. I’ve been checking here instead of my cc.I wonder how many people have looked at this thread just waiting for the “I got hit”
Me too, hahaha!!Haha. I’ve been checking here instead of my cc.
...and I’d like to know before the UT deadline in 2 days!I realize they put up a disclaimer/announcement sometime Friday, but does anyone else find the complete radio silence to be not very becoming? I mean I'm sure by this point, someone has a half an idea whether it's going to be Thursday or 3 weeks from now. The fact that there hasn't been any update since last Friday tells me it's more likely that it's going to be a while.
It's not really a big deal today, but I also would like to know before the NM deadline.
Did you expect to draw this year based on your number of points?My bonus points got updated today. Only showing 1 loyalty point and 1 hunters ed point. Hopefully that is a good sign.
No, I did not expect to draw this year.Did you expect to draw this year based on your number of points?
Same herePortal shows all of my pts but my 2021 app is still not showing.
I'm afraid to look at mine...Portal shows all of my pts but my 2021 app is still not showing.
I saw that. There were people that reported that their app was showing but bonus points were not. Some of those seemed to be resolving as time passes. So far my points were there from the get-go, but still no app showing. I did apply the day before the cutoff so I am towards the end to update I would think.Apparently your portal account will show your bonus points updated every day that you log into it.
Shhhh! Just say Thanx!I can see my app and my points, and funny thing is after they fixed it I got back all my loyalty points that I lost a couple years ago for missing one year.
I believe this would be more efficient than what is happening now. He just pulled out #173. Only 179,827 more to go!!Another day of waiting..
There must some guy in a dimly lit room with a green visor on pulling names out of a barrel, writing down their name and credit card number, filling out the tag info, licking the envelope putting the stamp on driving it to the post office and then moving on to the next...
Same for meMine now says I didn’t apply ?
It’s kind of like Democratic votes.... didn’t realize they had that many foolish people but they were a huge decider in the election. ?I didn’t even realize AZ had that many hunters.
Because we might track them down and beat them at this point!Why hasn’t anyone played the joke screaming in caps lock that their card got hit while everybody is so uptight as of late?! That would throw many into an emotional tailspin. Lol
my guess is cards will get charged tmw afternoon. Good luck!
That's the correct answer....every day.Tomorrow
I've got the same problem, now I can send a request to reset the password but no email comes through.At least you can get into your account THEY have sent a dozen new password's to me and the password's still wouldn't let access my account. They finally told me to wait and it will get fixed as soon as their tech can get to it.
2 weeks later still waiting
Today's check of the portal still showed no 2021 app and all of my pts were there.Just checked. Still no 2021 apps showing in my portal. I'm going to check it a few times a day to see if my apps show before the credit cards are hit.
And there goes March 5th..... (well at least business hours).When will they start this year??
It was just a joke Sir. People are on edge!Where did you hear Mid-May? I've not seen anything beyond the AZGFD notice. SWAG doesn't count for much in my book. do you have a link, or something similiar?
No worries! I was about to cancel my card if it was going to be as late as May!It was just a joke Sir. People are on edge!
HahaAZGuy,
You should know that none of us are in the mood for jokes. It is as nice as telling a fat kid you have Twinkies and cookies when all your have is veggies
And you know, as government employees, they "don't do" overtime!so the two computer systems, portal and main database, need a human to verify the applications before they talk to each other? that is really putting technology to work! genius!
My understanding from around January was the new system was to be used for the elk/pronghorn draw. I think I saw something on the G&F website that said that, but not 100%. Around that time frame, the issues with portal, licensing, and points systems not communicating arose and G&F decided to use the old/current system. It appears since the application system had already started, there was no going back, but they couldn't go forward.so the two computer systems, portal and main database, need a human to verify the applications before they talk to each other? that is really putting technology to work! genius!
If the only real date that matters is April 2, then why publish a hard deadline date on updating credit cards? Why Feb 25? Why not March 1? Or March 13? Or March 26? Or April 1?The card hit date is not in regulation, nor is it published by the dept. Tags will be mailed by April 2, a published date, and cards can be hit any time up to a point that allows them to complete their audits and mail tags within that timeframe.
Anyone who does not understand that there is a serious problem does not truly understand software and or IT systems. I've been in the software business for more than 2 decades. I can assure you with 100% confidence that there has been a major failure in the draw process. If you want to think otherwise or try to make justifications for them that's your choice, but I've seen this same scenario play out 100 times over the years.If the only real date that matters is April 2, then why publish a hard deadline date on updating credit cards? Why Feb 25? Why not March 1? Or March 13? Or March 26? Or April 1?
If cards can be hit any time, why not keep the update function open until they’re ready? Simply post an update on their website/email stating the ability to update cards will expire soon.
They messed up here and everyone is using the April 2 date as cover.
Yup, 10 days now since they’ve locked the CC update function. Guaranteed more than a handful of guys have invalid cards now.Anyone who does not understand that there is a serious problem does not truly understand software and or IT systems. I've been in the software business for more than 2 decades. I can assure you with 100% confidence that there has been a major failure in the draw process. If you want to think otherwise or try to make justifications for them that's your choice, but I've seen this same scenario play out 100 times over the years.
JFYI there are some of you that woulda, shoulda, did draw your dream tag, but won't end up with it and you'll never know or be the wiser. Only ones that will know that are a few tech. folks that are only going to cover their ass.
Kind of defeats the purpose of “update your credit cards by this date” doesn’t it? If you had an update time set you probably ought to charge very close to that. Imagine you lose your credit card or it gets compromised 5 days after the set update time. Be funny if someone didn’t get a coveted tag because they had to cancel the card they had on file.The card hit date is not in regulation, nor is it published by the dept. Tags will be mailed by April 2, a published date, and cards can be hit any time up to a point that allows them to complete their audits and mail tags within that timeframe.
Brown noser!I love AZ Game dept.
Just case they read this forum.
Mine cancelled also, fortunately for me I wasn’t in legitimate running or a super primo tag, worst case scenario for me I miss out on a late season elk tag.My card was canceled due to fraud. $2700 worth of fraudulent charges. Both my son and I are SOL!!!
And that's why they have a hard date for updates. Nobody I know is saying they just decided to bypass the date. Customers are now relying on the portal to show their info, correctly, even though it isn't connected. As such, I've heard they aren't going to run the draw until they fix that. I suspect they'll open the cc update link once they have the portal info updated. They are fully aware some cards have been canceled but, since they're entering customer info by hand, it may be a while.Yup, 10 days now since they’ve locked the CC update function. Guaranteed more than a handful of guys have invalid cards now.
Invalid card rejection due to fraudulent activity doesn't necessarily mean you won't get the tag(the following is the reason they started charging cards soon after the update deadline). Happened to me several years ago. My card was part of a major credit card theft that made the news. I drew a bonus pass antelope tag and was rejected. I wrote the commission and a few department contacts and explained the situation. A few weeks later I ended up with tag #6 in a 5 tag antelope unit. Of course you have to actually have been drawn and rejected for this to work, and the unit biologist has to sign off on it. I want to say there were about 20 other people that got tags the same way that year.
That's the only fair solution at this point. We'll see if they agree.I suspect they'll open the cc update link once they have the portal info updated.
And that is a possibility as well.I would like to think they will call all the people with declined cards and give them the chance to provide a different card but that will only delay the results more for the rest of us.
Yep. I still have a chance until I'm told I don't!No news is good news, unless it's not!!
Not sure I would reopen any of the systems - portal, application, draw - after manually entering ~200,000 applications. Might just open up another tech fiasco.That's the only fair solution at this point. We'll see if they agree.
I'm hoping the draw has been completed and they will let the cards update and then close it and run the charges Friday night.more like friday night
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