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>What ever it costs SETI is
>a drop in the bucket
>compared to the hundreds of
>trillions churches have gotten by
>not being taxed.
>
>So is there any reason to
>even send your children and
>grand children to school?
>Sounds like you would be
>better off to just keep
>them home and teach them
>yourself. You fear knowledge
>and facts as much as
>Manny does.
>
>Science is never perfect but it's
>track record is at least
>100 times better than the
>track record of any religion
>when it comes to freeing
>humans from suffering, hunger and
>poverty. it isn't
>even close and there are
>even studies that probe it.
>
>
>More people have been killed, displaced,
>impoverished in the name o
>religion then any other human
>made cause. So please
>tell why anyone would crow
>about being religious?
>
>Nemont
you really should take the fingers out chur ears Ne' I mean you are a know it all this is true, but kinda hard to break down that fa?ade, so show me anywhere in the new testament where Jesus the resurrected son of God said, "thus says the lord I want there to be Catholics and Presbyterians and none other the blinded Mormons, you won't find it, he pointed to God then himself, period. Quote "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me. (Jesus) 7" If you had known Me, you would have known the father to (God)."
religion is man made and so is science, religion is mans way of half heartedly searching for God on their own terms, Science is mans way of trying to find some other explanation then God again on their own terms. Jesus said' "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him to me, John 6-44...so unless you're drawn you are groping in the dark.
you are correct many people have killed in the name of religion just look at islam today, God knows secularists never cease to remind us of the Catholic crusades; and again a man made religion; Jesus said' an hour is coming when men will kill you thinking that he is offering service to God. 3" These things they will do because they have not known the Father nor Me.?John 16
so when science gets it wrong, (Global Warming) hey lets scratch that and try again from another origin, no harm no foul but when religions get it wrong well hell it all must be a hoax right' there must be no God, please' give me a break. throw out the baby with the bath water why don't you and they have, time n time again hopping for a different outcome.
Thomas Nagel
?I speak from experience, being strongly subject to this fear myself: I want atheism to be true and am made uneasy by the fact that some of the most intelligent and well-informed people I know are religious believers.
It isn't just that I don't believe in God and, naturally, hope that I'm right in my belief. It's that I hope there is no God! I don't want there to be a God; I don't want the universe to be like that. My guess is that this cosmic authority problem is not a rare condition and that it is responsible for much of the scientism and reductionism of our time. One of the tendencies it supports is the ludicrous overuse of evolutionary biology to explain everything about human life, including everything about the human mind ?.
This is a somewhat ridiculous situation ?. It is just as irrational to be influenced in one?s beliefs by the hope that God does not exist as by the hope that God does exist.
wow what a presupposition ey'
Fact' the Bible is a Faith based book, but a historical one as well for there are thousand of artifacts proving so; God even said you cannot please him without faith, many prophecies (Predictions) that were spoken thousands of years ago have transpired, many with in our generation, but when you have a presupposition as Mr. Thomas Nagel, well how in the world can you be objective and un-biased, Q' how much is missed because of the fact that ones opinion is already made up...? why tackle the subject in the first place, when you're out to prove some one or thing does not exist, well' to prove everyone else wrong isn't that right Ne'...
here's some facts for you hopefully God will allow your minds to open and to see the truth....
First question is for Bess"
Q) So how did Joseph smith come up with the book of mormon: answer; it is common knowledge and recoded in history that He claimed an angel came to him and gave him the golden plates or tablets
A) The Bible says in Galatians 1(NLT)
8 believe no other doctrine even if an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Gospel than the one we preached to you. 9 I say again what we have said before: If anyone preaches any other Gospel than the one we preached, let that person be accursed.
for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 2nd Corinthians 11:14
don't get mad at me I didn't write that God did...
Predictions that have come to pass within our life time:
Jeremiah 30:1-31:40 ESV
?Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: Write in a book all the words that I have spoken to you. For behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will restore the fortunes of my people, Israel and Judah, says the Lord, and I will bring them back to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall take possession of it
Amos 9:14-15 ESV
I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant them on their land, and they shall never again be uprooted out of the land that I have given them,? says the Lord your God.
Israel became a nation once again in 1958...
a lot lately I have a people ask me why I believe this is the last generation. My answer is simple...there are just too many Bible prophecies that have come true in this final generation for it to be a coincidence.
One thing that I find fascinating, as far back as 2500 years ago, the Bible predicted many of the prophecies that we are experiencing in this very hour. Many of these prophecies began when Israel once again became a nation. In fact, I believe the Bible is pretty clear, once Israel became a nation, a generation would not pass away before we would see the Second Coming of Christ (Matthew 24:4-34).
I find it interesting that the Bible would predict, 2500 years in advance, the starting point and the ending point of the last generation. The starting point being the rebirth of Israel and the ending point being the Second Coming of Christ. Many prophecies that are slated to be a part of this last generation have come to pass.
It amazes me that out of the last 2500 years it is within this 70-80 year time span that these prophecy have begun to take shape. Below is a list of the prophecies that have come about within this last generation:
* The re-gathering of the Jews into their homeland (Ezekiel 37:11-13) after thousands of years of God ordained exile. Another amazing fact, after thousands of years living in other nations, there Jewish culture has remained intact.
* The rebirth of Israel as a nation in 1948 (Ezekiel 37:10-14; Isaiah 43:5, 6; 66:7-8) in one day. Israel literally became a nation again in one day. Following their declaration of statehood, the next day, five Arab nations attacked Israel. But Israel defeated them and has grown into a major world military power. This prophecy of rebirth essentially kicked off the beginning of the last generation.
* The Arab world will claim they are rightful owners of the land of Israel (Ezekiel 35:5, 10; 36:2, 5). It wasn't until the Jews began migrating back to Palestine in hopes of declaring Israeli statehood that the Arab world laid claim to the land. Before that, it was of no value to them.
* The desert land of Israel will bloom again during this last generation (Luke 21:29-31; Isaiah 41:18-21). This has literally happened in our lifetime. As stated in the last bullet point, the land of Israel was a worthless desert place while the Arabs occupied the land. However, once Israel reclaimed their homeland, it has become an fertile oasis.
* The city of Jerusalem recaptured by Israel 19 years later in 1967 (Zechariah 8:7-8; 12:3). Jerusalem can't be a stumbling block to world peace if Israel if its not under their control.
* A Middle East peace plan with Israel, where Jerusalem is considered a major stumbling block will develop in the last days (Daniel 9:27; Zechariah 12:3). This is literally taking place today.
* This peace plan with Israel will ultimately have a seven-year time limit (Daniel 9:27). Right now, virtually every proposed Middle East peace proposal has a timeline for which peace must be realized. The splitting of Jerusalem is usually the final jewel of every peace accord.
* The ruins of Israel will be rebuilt (Amos 9:11 &13). This has kicked into high gear since Israel became a nation (1948).
* An eastern nation capable of fielding a 200 million man army (Revelation 9:16) will arise during the tribulation period. No nation has ever been able to field an army of this magnitude until this generation (China & India).
* The Euphrates River will be dried up to enable a great army to cross (Revelation 16:12). This could not have been done until 1990 without the help of modern day technology.
* During this generation, man will obtain the ability to view an event simultaneously all over the world (Revelation 11:9-10). Certainly, this was impossible until satellite technology was invented during this generation.
* Russia, Iran, a host of northern African nations, and the surrounding Islamic world will forge an alliance and attack Israel (Ezekiel 38 & 39). Today, virtually all of these nations (listed in Ezekiel 38) are already in an alliance with each other.
* World leaders will begin talking about world governance as a necessary evil. This has become a major topic among the global community especially since the beginning of the financial crisis in the European Union. This will eventually lead to a one world government led by the Antichrist (Revelation 13). If you are a frequent reader of mine, you know that this is happening as I write. The first significant world body called the United Nations was created in 1945 to encourage global cooperation.
* The temple will be rebuilt (Revelation 11:1, 2; Daniel 9:27). This is still yet future, but it is a foregone conclusion that various temple organizations, once the okay to rebuild is given, will have it completed within months.
* The Antichrist will rise up out of the New Roman Empire known today as the European Union (Daniel 9:27). He will lead this one world government through false deception and eventually claim to be God..
* In the last days, knowledge will increase dramatically (Daniel 12:4). There is no debating the fact that knowledge has increased in leaps and bounds over the last 100 years, but particularly during the last 70-80 years. Medicine and technological discoveries have exploded in this last generation.
I didn't even mention the increase in world travel (Daniel 12:4) and the explosion of natural disasters that was predicted for the last days. Even secular world news reports acknowledge that we have had a tremendous increase in freakish natural disasters over the last ten years.
It is during this narrow block of time that all these prophecies are beginning to or already have come to past. Can this all be a coincidence?
remember that saying every rumor has a bit of truth to it, well Are you ready to meet the Lord? If not, your time is running out....
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