LAST EDITED ON Feb-20-10 AT 11:45PM (MST)[p]
>The local Utah news stated the
>other night that Agriculture produced
>over 15% of Utah's jobs.
>I am not sure where
>you get all your facts.
>The tags they give to
>the ranchers are only given
>to the ranchers that own
>private land. What about all
>the ranchers that don't own
>any private land and just
>lease the permits from the
>BLM or FS. I bet
>that only 10% of Utah's
>ranchers own private land. I
>am not saying the ranchers
>that lease the land deserve
>anything, because they do not.
>The only thing is that
>right now on many of
>the units in the state
>most of the ranchers are
>only able to run from
>50 to 75% of the
>amount of cattle that they
>are supposed to due to
>the drought. One other thing
>is that some of the
>units in Utah like the
>Southwest Desert unit are already
>over on elk Numbers. The
>BLM monitors my cows and
>if I am over the
>amount that I am supposed
>to be I get fined.
>Cattleman can control their cows,
>it is very hard to
>control elk. I am only
>able to run 35 %
>of my cows on this
>unit right now. Last summer
>it was 40%. I know
>one really good idea would
>be to have a big
>and I mean big Wild
>Horse round up. The horses
>cost all of us money
>and are good for nothing
>right now. We would all
>benefit from this... I hope
>we can all come up
>with a decision that would
>be best for bothe the
>Sportsman and Cattleman because I
>am a part of both
>of these organizations...........
First off ,Mustangs cut back! yea that would be nice! but......good luck getting the blm to do there job with the stangs! they do round ups out there but after the stangs dont sell at the auctions they release them right back out there! They even bring stangs from diff areas and release them out there,as chad hunter himself told me that(runs the blm mustang roundups) the other kicker is the mustang association actually has blm permits out on the sw des. now ya wanna talk crap on cattlemen , think about the stangs that arent good for anything! and the blm permits that mustang assoc. holds. i bet there are more stangs on sw des than elk! i see way more stang sign than elk and deer combined while rounding up cattle up there.
hossblur!***
your statements are confusing you go from talking bad about ranchers/cattlemen to being friends with them then saying you like seeing livesotck to wanting to side with bikers/enviro/anti hunting type people... not trying to start an argument just wondering where you stand im a bit confused?? multiple personalities would explain a lot....haha jk
now going back to the sfw.... the more i hear about them the less i like about them.(if its all true)... do you fight the anti's cause they wanna get rid of hunting all together or do you fight the sfw to make better hunting opportunities for not just the rich but for everyone. seems to me utah is one of the only states that does as much auction tags as we do... gratned there are some in other states, but not the amount utah is doing right?... how is it the other states are able to not have to auction to only wealthy folks like utah is doing?? obviously most states do governor tags but is that where they end it?... do they auction tags like utah does? can anyone find a list of other states auctioned tags or is utah way ahead/behind other states in this category?
i know the auctioned tags generate alot of money but where are the numbers for it?...are the funds actually going to places to help out the wildlife or where is it actually going? does anyone know where to find the facts and info?
