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I did a quick check on MM to see if this has already been posted but, I did not see it. If I missed it...my apalogies, and just ignore it.
This was emailed to me today. What you all think about this...
"Thanks for your inspiring support and commitment. We are in the biggest
fight of our lives on wolves, but we can win, if as Tim McGraw says, How bad
do you want it ?
Here is the basics of the SFW Proposed Deer Managent Plan.
1. Based on the DWR survey, and ONE years 2009 deer hunt application,
force hunters to apply for ONE deer unit in 2009, a Hunt A or a Hunt B.
Here are the characteristics of each hunt:
Hunt A. Basically the same hunting experience as today's general season
units. Post season buck doe ratios from 13-17. Keep five general season
units, hunters can expect to draw a tag 4 out of 5 years (all but once in 5
years), family and recreation style hunts. Dedicated Hunters and Lifetime
license holders could only obtain Hunt A tags. If they want Hunt B, they
forfeit their DH or LT priviledges. Hunters drawing Hunt A could hunt
anywhere in the region they drew - EXCEPT the Hunt B unit by units within
that region.
Hunt B. Post season buck doe ratios 35-40. Managed on a unit by unit
basis. Hunters can Expect to draw a permit ONCE every four or five years.
When they do, great bucks, uncrowded conditions.
2. After the hunters make the first years choice - 2009, then in
2010, the DWR then matches the percentage of deer in Each hunt type,
corresponding to the percentage of deer hunters favoring hunt A and Hunt B.
a. It is not number of deer units, it is number of actual deer.
b. So, if 70% of the hunters choose Hunt A (recreation) and 30% Hunt B
(trophy) then 70% of utahs deer herds would be managed in Hunt A strategy
and 30% in Hunt B.
3. From 2010 to 2015, Hunters would be required to apply for hunts in
Hunt A, or hunt B categories. They could changes regions (from Southern to
North East for example) in hunt A during this five year period, and they
could change individual units in Hunt B, but you could NOT change from Hunt
A to Hunt B during this five year period.
4. The process would be repeated for five years in 2015 - 2020. If
for example it shifted to 60% to 40% Type A and Type B hunters, the DWR
would add 10% more deer to the Type B management program.
5. The Hunt A units and Hunt B units would then be determined. Hunt B
units would probably include Paunsagunt, Henries, Book Cliffs, San Juan, and
then possibly add some Units like Pavant, Beaver, Dutton, Nebo, and South
Cache. (Whatever Number of deer required to get an equal percentage of deer
as percentage of Type B hunters)
6. Some current limited units might be thrown into the Hunt A general
season - Vernon, Thousand Lake, etc.
7. Current Deer bonus points would be converted to preference points.
8. A decision has to be made then about Hunt B units. Could you apply
for just ONE specific unit within Hunt B, or could you apply for multiple
units in order of preference like the Colorado System? This would have to
be determined by the committee as they look more closely.
9. The Hunt B tags will cost probably 5 times as much as Hunt A tags.
The DWR needs a revenue neutral process (you are only getting a tag once
every five years - thus you pay 5 times as much)
10. It will obviously take some time to make the NEW type B units - Which
ever ones are selected - 2-3 years to get some real quality
11. It would seem that those who choose Hunt B for the first five years -
the tough building years - should have some sort of preference or advantage
going into the second five years - once the quality is built, then more will
want to jump on the bandwagon.
12. Statewide Archery COULD be extended for the Hunt A general season
units. If archers want a Type B unit by unit tag, they would have to put in
for such a tag.
13. Make a law so that a Dad could let a youth under 16 to hunt with him
and take a deer on his tag. For Example, my son might choose type A and
hunt every year for a few years. IN year Four of the program, I draw a
Beaver tag in Type B. WE go hunting. I tell the son, if I see a 35 incher,
I am pulling the trigger. If on the last few days of the hunt, we see a
nice 28 incher, the son pulls the trigger, and my tag goes on my sons deer.
Within the type B units, there could be lots of flexibility on season dates
etc, because the harvest will be controlled by the number of tags issues.
The Beaver unit - if put in Type B could have perhaps an early rifle - Sept.
15, a MZ hunt in late Sept. a rifle season in late Oct. and maybe a handful
of tags in Mid November.
Once again, I think this proposal meets the DWR criteria. Simple, Revenue
Nuetral, Youth Friendly.
It is fairly simple for Type A hunters, just put in for one of five regions
like NOW, draw probably 4 tags in five years. Family friendly, lots of
opportunity.
For the more serious hunters, it can be more complicated, we are willing to
put in the time and effort to understand the regs, etc. It will cost more
to draw this tag - revenue neutral.
The youth can hunt all three weapons in Type A units. They can go hunting
with Dad on a Trophy unit and see what real hunting is like and they just
might get to blast a pretty big buck on Dad's tag, and if they are like my
son, they will go from just killing a deer, to wanting a BIG one in short
order.
Let me know what else needs to be added to this BASIC proposal.
IN the mean time, the dWR and SFW will do all that we can to fix habitat,
keep predators under control, fence highways, solve depredation."
Don
This was emailed to me today. What you all think about this...
"Thanks for your inspiring support and commitment. We are in the biggest
fight of our lives on wolves, but we can win, if as Tim McGraw says, How bad
do you want it ?
Here is the basics of the SFW Proposed Deer Managent Plan.
1. Based on the DWR survey, and ONE years 2009 deer hunt application,
force hunters to apply for ONE deer unit in 2009, a Hunt A or a Hunt B.
Here are the characteristics of each hunt:
Hunt A. Basically the same hunting experience as today's general season
units. Post season buck doe ratios from 13-17. Keep five general season
units, hunters can expect to draw a tag 4 out of 5 years (all but once in 5
years), family and recreation style hunts. Dedicated Hunters and Lifetime
license holders could only obtain Hunt A tags. If they want Hunt B, they
forfeit their DH or LT priviledges. Hunters drawing Hunt A could hunt
anywhere in the region they drew - EXCEPT the Hunt B unit by units within
that region.
Hunt B. Post season buck doe ratios 35-40. Managed on a unit by unit
basis. Hunters can Expect to draw a permit ONCE every four or five years.
When they do, great bucks, uncrowded conditions.
2. After the hunters make the first years choice - 2009, then in
2010, the DWR then matches the percentage of deer in Each hunt type,
corresponding to the percentage of deer hunters favoring hunt A and Hunt B.
a. It is not number of deer units, it is number of actual deer.
b. So, if 70% of the hunters choose Hunt A (recreation) and 30% Hunt B
(trophy) then 70% of utahs deer herds would be managed in Hunt A strategy
and 30% in Hunt B.
3. From 2010 to 2015, Hunters would be required to apply for hunts in
Hunt A, or hunt B categories. They could changes regions (from Southern to
North East for example) in hunt A during this five year period, and they
could change individual units in Hunt B, but you could NOT change from Hunt
A to Hunt B during this five year period.
4. The process would be repeated for five years in 2015 - 2020. If
for example it shifted to 60% to 40% Type A and Type B hunters, the DWR
would add 10% more deer to the Type B management program.
5. The Hunt A units and Hunt B units would then be determined. Hunt B
units would probably include Paunsagunt, Henries, Book Cliffs, San Juan, and
then possibly add some Units like Pavant, Beaver, Dutton, Nebo, and South
Cache. (Whatever Number of deer required to get an equal percentage of deer
as percentage of Type B hunters)
6. Some current limited units might be thrown into the Hunt A general
season - Vernon, Thousand Lake, etc.
7. Current Deer bonus points would be converted to preference points.
8. A decision has to be made then about Hunt B units. Could you apply
for just ONE specific unit within Hunt B, or could you apply for multiple
units in order of preference like the Colorado System? This would have to
be determined by the committee as they look more closely.
9. The Hunt B tags will cost probably 5 times as much as Hunt A tags.
The DWR needs a revenue neutral process (you are only getting a tag once
every five years - thus you pay 5 times as much)
10. It will obviously take some time to make the NEW type B units - Which
ever ones are selected - 2-3 years to get some real quality
11. It would seem that those who choose Hunt B for the first five years -
the tough building years - should have some sort of preference or advantage
going into the second five years - once the quality is built, then more will
want to jump on the bandwagon.
12. Statewide Archery COULD be extended for the Hunt A general season
units. If archers want a Type B unit by unit tag, they would have to put in
for such a tag.
13. Make a law so that a Dad could let a youth under 16 to hunt with him
and take a deer on his tag. For Example, my son might choose type A and
hunt every year for a few years. IN year Four of the program, I draw a
Beaver tag in Type B. WE go hunting. I tell the son, if I see a 35 incher,
I am pulling the trigger. If on the last few days of the hunt, we see a
nice 28 incher, the son pulls the trigger, and my tag goes on my sons deer.
Within the type B units, there could be lots of flexibility on season dates
etc, because the harvest will be controlled by the number of tags issues.
The Beaver unit - if put in Type B could have perhaps an early rifle - Sept.
15, a MZ hunt in late Sept. a rifle season in late Oct. and maybe a handful
of tags in Mid November.
Once again, I think this proposal meets the DWR criteria. Simple, Revenue
Nuetral, Youth Friendly.
It is fairly simple for Type A hunters, just put in for one of five regions
like NOW, draw probably 4 tags in five years. Family friendly, lots of
opportunity.
For the more serious hunters, it can be more complicated, we are willing to
put in the time and effort to understand the regs, etc. It will cost more
to draw this tag - revenue neutral.
The youth can hunt all three weapons in Type A units. They can go hunting
with Dad on a Trophy unit and see what real hunting is like and they just
might get to blast a pretty big buck on Dad's tag, and if they are like my
son, they will go from just killing a deer, to wanting a BIG one in short
order.
Let me know what else needs to be added to this BASIC proposal.
IN the mean time, the dWR and SFW will do all that we can to fix habitat,
keep predators under control, fence highways, solve depredation."
Don