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excavator

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I DO NOT INTEND FOR THIS POST TO BE A POLITICAL DEBATE. I JUST REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT OTHERS ARE THINKING IN THESE CRAZY TIMES.


So Facebook and Twitter deleted the president along with thousands of other conservative voices.

I thought Trump getting shut down was possible, but I did not expect the many other conservatives to be discriminated against. I thought to myself "wow are they really going to purge the prominent conservative voices from their sites?" I mean, after all, this is how 90 percent of the world communicates.

Then, almost as if it was coordinated and planned, I discover that Google and Apple will no longer provide the Parler app. Finally, to put the icing on the cake, I find out that Amazon has also cut ties with Parler, which will effectively shut Parler down.

As most know, Facebook and Twitter already censor conservative speech by using biased fact checkers and Parler was basically the location where many conservatives had already moved to.

Anyway, it seems clear to me, as well as most conservative minded people, that the purge has begun. The plan of removing the conservative voices from our society, so they are unable to spread their conservative influence, has just shifted in to overdrive.

Some will say that some of this must be done because of what happened at the capital and we can't let these crazy conservatives plan further attacks on uncensored platforms, but unless you have had your head in the sand for the last four years, you know that removing conservative influence from our society has been an openly stated goal of a large sector of the left. Others will say these media giants are a private company, so they can lawfully exclude conservative voices. My response is OK great, but does that mean that it has any less effect on our society? It's not OK to discriminate on the basis of sex, race, religion, etc.....but it is OK to discriminate on the basis of ideology??

Also, If you have watched the media over the last few days, you have seen how the media is profiting immensely off the capital riots by linking all conservatives to the crazies that rioted at the capital. This is part of the narrative that will be used to allow for silencing those "dangerous" conservative voices.

Anyway, I am not trying to debate with anybody, but I am very curious if others feel as I do. To say that I am disheartened is an understatement. At this point, I am just trying to figure out how far it will go.

P.S. - Please don't turn this in to a heated political debate, so we can see how others feel.

Thanks,
 

Drnaln

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Going to be a rough couple years for Conservatives! Go to the corner & keep quiet or you will be punished!
 

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As John McClane said "Welcome to the party Pal"

Left: If you don't like Twitter quit your bitchin and build your own damn platform.

Parler: OK we did. Cancelled

Left: F.U. you Nazi's
 

cacklercrazy

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Going to be a rough couple years for Conservatives! Go to the corner & keep quiet or you will be punished!
That's the problem. That what they want us to do. No voice, no say and no choice but to take what they give us! Doesn't sound like unity and healing to me. Sounds more like a dictatorship or should I say welcome to California!
 

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It sounds cliche but fact is the free market and capitalism is the only way to overcome the box we have put ourselves into. They ( the liberal/Socialist) have had an agenda for years now, they have solid control of education and now social media. Parlar etc. Must develop alternative platforms and server capabilities. Conservatives must stop spending our cash with Apple/ Google/ Amazon. Start today !!!!!
 

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Candace Owens is suing one of the fact checkers. FB has 230. The contractors they use dont.

But it is sad. The left wants an echo chamber where its not confronted with contrary view.


As to US.

ID imagine the NRA will not be allowed on any platform real soon. Followed by any other pro gun group.

UPS/FED EX will get to choose Amazon shipping or gun shipping, meaning guns wont be shipped.

RMEF, MDF, DU, PHEASANT FOREVER, etc, etc will be de platformed as well.

But, we can all sit around and pretend the gov wasnt involved in private buisness, while those businesses hide behind gov protection(230) to do it.
 

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This may sound like a dumb question. How hard would it be for a group of conservative millionaires to join together and create their own system like google, amazon, FB ?
Or would that just turn into more greedy capitalism?
 

Founder

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Come on, I really don’t want this political stuff here. I understand all this that’s going on is a hot topic to discuss, but I just don’t want to deal with it.
I know this thread hasn’t turned to a fight YET, but it will and I don’t want it here.
I’ve asked nicely many times, yet it continues.
PLEASE. I do not want to ban anyone else.
 

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Come on, I really don’t want this political stuff here. I understand all this that’s going on is a hot topic to discuss, but I just don’t want to deal with it.
I know this thread hasn’t turned to a fight YET, but it will and I don’t want it here.
I’ve asked nicely many times, yet it continues.
PLEASE. I do not want to ban anyone else.
you have an opportunity as a web site to give Americans that are being silenced at east one place for there voice. but hate to trouble you. your either part of the problem or part of the solution. but yeah, just the death of liberty, don't get up...

im sure you'll delete this. thats fine.
 

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for any who've never read it

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller


it wont stop with conservative voices, i promise
 

Founder

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you have an opportunity as a web site to give Americans that are being silenced at east one place for there voice. but hate to trouble you. your either part of the problem or part of the solution. but yeah, just the death of liberty, don't get up...

im sure you'll delete this. thats fine.
Why don't YOU give them a place to voice (fight, call names and complain)? It's easy to sit around and expect others to do everything. What's your contribution? Is it this^^^? Just writing on the internet that other people do it all? Why am I expected to invest the time, disk space and bandwidth to provide a place to fight, argue, name call and complain?
 

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I've not called any one a name. just pointed out an opportunity you have. im sure i could start a web site and maybe in 20 years have the members you do. think that will help now?
 

Founder

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I've not called any one a name. just pointed out an opportunity you have. im sure i could start a web site and maybe in 20 years have the members you do. think that will help now?
If you invest enough money, you can have far more members in just a few weeks. Get on it! Be a part of the solution! Because telling me to do it for you, isn't being part of the solution.
I hosted a political forum for many, many years allowing everyone to speak freely, which meant a lot of fighting, name calling and battles that cost me much headache, time and frustration. It's your turn! Better hurry though, it's urgent.
We can talk hunting here and fight politics on your site. I'd love to come visit cause I've got a lot of name calling, complaining and arguing and fighting to do. Sounds fun as long as someone else is providing it and dealing with all my name calling and fighting.
 

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OK. well i hope you dont complain when they come for you. it will only be fair. you do realize you have people selling guns n this web site right....
 

Founder

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its going to be only name calling. any one not calling everyone else "names" will be banned
Sounds fun! I've been working on some new names I've invented and want to use. They're good. ;)
Once you get it up and running and an executive order removes your 230 protection, you can enjoy lawsuits for what I post. You'll love it!!! :LOL:
 

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Sounds fun! I've been working on some new names I've invented and want to use. They're good. ;)
Once you get it up and running and an executive order removes your 230 protection, you can enjoy lawsuits for what I post. You'll love it!!! :LOL:
I like it. @Founder can join Pickett's website, because Pickett decides he's going to be part of the solution. Then @Founder can slander people on Pickett's website and the victim can sue Pickett for hosting it, even though he did nothing wrong.

What could go wrong with getting rid of 230? It seems like a great plan!
 

Founder

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its going to be only name calling. any one not calling everyone else "names" will be banned
It’s been a few hours. By now you should have a domain name registered and hosting setup. Probably even someone already working on getting that forum up if you paid to expedite installation. (You should have if you want to be part of the solution) :)
Should be live tomorrow morning, huh? PM me the site address, I’m aching to call someone a name unless they agree with me on everything I say.:ROFLMAO:
(Joking around of course)
 

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It’s been a few hours. By now you should have a domain name registered and hosting setup. Probably even someone already working on getting that forum up if you paid to expedite installation. (You should have if you want to be part of the solution) :)
Should be live tomorrow morning, huh? PM me the site address, I’m aching to call someone a name unless they agree with me on everything I say.:ROFLMAO:
(Joking around of course)
Amazon already shut him down.
 

Founder

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Bezos actually has a gun to my head right now. man that didn't take long....
You’ve given it a heck of a shot though. You’ve tried everything. All the cards were stacked against you from the beginning. The system is rigged, you’ve proven that with your gallant effort. You’re probably very exhausted. Pop a cold one and stretch those fingers, you’ve got some online complaining to do!!! :p
 

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It’s been a few hours. By now you should have a domain name registered and hosting setup. Probably even someone already working on getting that forum up if you paid to expedite installation. (You should have if you want to be part of the solution) :)
Should be live tomorrow morning, huh? PM me the site address, I’m aching to call someone a name unless they agree with me on everything I say.:ROFLMAO:
(Joking around of course)
i'm just glad i don't have all that hard work of reading things other people write like you do. man, must be taxing. how do you do it? guess sill just stick with construction. no where near as demanding as internet moderating....
 

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I can't believe how many times the OP used the word conservative. We get it. But you're wrong. My father was a conservative. Reagan was a conservative. Trump is not a conservative. Look at spending under him. Trump is for Trump. The people who are stirring things up on Parler or at the Capital aren't conservatives. Proud Boys and QAnon are not conservatives. They are far right. Not just Rs or conservatives. Far right. Wack jobs.

Likewise, all Ds are not socialists. They are not all antifa believers. Those are far, far left. Wack jobs.

People in the middle of the bell shaped curve like me, whether left or right of center, are effing tired of being lumped with either of these far out groups.
 

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Ok, if you all watch the Snowden movie you will understand even more than you already know. It is very easy for them. And if I was anyone here I would not post things you feel or know you shouldn't. Get it ?
 

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I can't believe how many times the OP used the word conservative. We get it. But you're wrong. My father was a conservative. Reagan was a conservative. Trump is not a conservative. Look at spending under him. Trump is for Trump. The people who are stirring things up on Parler or at the Capital aren't conservatives. Proud Boys and QAnon are not conservatives. They are far right. Not just Rs or conservatives. Far right. Wack jobs.

Likewise, all Ds are not socialists. They are not all antifa believers. Those are far, far left. Wack jobs.

People in the middle of the bell shaped curve like me, whether left or right of center, are effing tired of being lumped with either of these far out groups.



FB just locked down Ron Paul. Hes not a conservative either. FYI
 

hossblur

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I went to history class. The French Revolution actually happened. In the end the revolutionaries started guillotining other revolutionaries.

Grizzly seems to think he can walk some razors edge. If he rips R and argues for the big tech, he will be safe.

Problem is, hes on at least 2 HUNTING sites that I know of. Killing animals, with guns. Yup, others will face cancellation first, but after the low hanging fruit, his head will be on the block. Same as mine, and Founders. "Hey im on your side" wont mean crap. Just another blood thirsty gun owner.

Founder im sure can speak to how many animal rights and anti gun folks attack this site. Im sure its more than one.

Founder is also right, its not his job to fight if you wont.

If you have social media, your not fighting. If Duck, Duck, Go isn't your exclusive search engine, your not fighting. If you own an Iphone, your not fighting. You can order the same crap from the actual vendor, and have it shipped. You dont need Amazon.

Conservatives just want to be left alone. Libs want to control. Its against our nature to do what they do. It sucks that we are getting sucked into their petty BS. But we have been. Cancel culture cuts both ways. The NBA knows it. NFL as well.

Go woke, go broke. Just going to have to be the way it is.
 

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I can't believe how many times the OP used the word conservative. We get it. But you're wrong. My father was a conservative. Reagan was a conservative. Trump is not a conservative. Look at spending under him. Trump is for Trump. The people who are stirring things up on Parler or at the Capital aren't conservatives. Proud Boys and QAnon are not conservatives. They are far right. Not just Rs or conservatives. Far right. Wack jobs.

Likewise, all Ds are not socialists. They are not all antifa believers. Those are far, far left. Wack jobs.

People in the middle of the bell shaped curve like me, whether left or right of center, are effing tired of being lumped with either of these far out groups.
Great couple of 1st posts. Hide behind a new name?
 

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The worst part is we’re already pitting ourselves against each other. We love the same things other than politics. We need to band together to make sure they can’t get any of us. I’m just saying if we can’t stand together how much easier is it to make us fall. Keep stacking bullets and leave politics to the criminals. Censorship is bs but if founder doesn’t want it here it’s his choice.
 

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I can't believe how many times the OP used the word conservative. We get it. But you're wrong. My father was a conservative. Reagan was a conservative. Trump is not a conservative. Look at spending under him. Trump is for Trump. The people who are stirring things up on Parler or at the Capital aren't conservatives. Proud Boys and QAnon are not conservatives. They are far right. Not just Rs or conservatives. Far right. Wack jobs.

Likewise, all Ds are not socialists. They are not all antifa believers. Those are far, far left. Wack jobs.

People in the middle of the bell shaped curve like me, whether left or right of center, are effing tired of being lumped with either of these far out groups.
Cortez is a wack job far left. Bernie also. It is hard to say what will be implemented in the next term. Just remember any person with a cell phone or a
PC is being monitored. I see things in different sites being posted that I know puts them and every single person they know and the people that know the people that know as targets .
 

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What motivates the left in all they do? If you're unsure, they have what motivates them... all of it. It only gets worse ----->
 

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Well before this gets locked and deleted, I find the censorship way more worrisome then the any of the riots. It is becoming clear that "healing and unity" means come to certain way of thinking or you will be cancelled, and you, your family, your friends, your job, your life will be under attack.

What I struggle with, a 4 time deployed 14 year veteran died in the halls of congress because they lost confidence in our democratic process. Both sides need to reflect on that and try to step back and tone down the rhetoric. However, one side is ramping up the rhetoric and silencing the other for the "greater good". To me this is simply dangerous.

AWS, Microsoft and Google control most of the cloud platforms for hosting and storage, getting around that is going to be hard. Much to the misconception of many once they start purging and censoring they are no longer protected by 230, they are now a publisher with editorial decision making. If you read the SEC documents of Twitter, they say they provide a platform for free speech and the sharing of ideas. Seems like that is no longer the case. However, they have at least a 2 year pass before anything changes.

No matter, I think there is going to be some difficult times ahead.
 

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"What I struggle with, a 4 time deployed 14 year veteran died in the halls of congress because they lost confidence in our democratic process."

^^^This right there!^^^
 

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The real answer is it will go as far as this new extremist regime wants to go if judges back them up. The left has the majority now.
When Harris was an actual presidential candidate, she did clearly state that, should Congress not enact several of her gun control ideas within 100 days of her taking office, she “will take executive action.”
Things have been swinging a bit at a time in sentiment since Sandy Hook. The media seems intent on helping them. Fox News may even get shut down.
So many people have made remarks about fighting for their guns. That is big talk for most.
 
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