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Ukrainian film star, 33, killed in Russia-Ukraine war while defending country​

Pasha Lee was killed in action during a Russian shelling as the war in Ukraine rages on
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The majority of our film stars would defect to the enemy to save their butts.
RELH
 
RELH said:

Ukrainian film star, 33, killed in Russia-Ukraine war while defending country​

Pasha Lee was killed in action during a Russian shelling as the war in Ukraine rages on
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The majority of our film stars would defect to the enemy to save their butts.
RELH
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They already do not just film but sports as well.
 
If Americans were in the same position as Ukrainians right now, more Republicans than Democrats would stay and fight, according to a poll released Monday.

Of the Republicans surveyed in the Quinnipiac University Poll, 68% said they would stay and fight compared to 40% of Democrats. Among Democrats, 52% said they would flee the country, compared to 25% of Republicans.
 
RELH said:
If Americans were in the same position as Ukrainians right now, more Republicans than Democrats would stay and fight, according to a poll released Monday.

Of the Republicans surveyed in the Quinnipiac University Poll, 68% said they would stay and fight compared to 40% of Democrats. Among Democrats, 52% said they would flee the country, compared to 25% of Republicans.
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No surprise there...
 
RELH said:

Ukrainian film star, 33, killed in Russia-Ukraine war while defending country​

Pasha Lee was killed in action during a Russian shelling as the war in Ukraine rages on
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The majority of our film stars would defect to the enemy to save their butts.
RELH
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May his soul rest in peace... poor Ukraine.
 
RELH said:
If Americans were in the same position as Ukrainians right now, more Republicans than Democrats would stay and fight, according to a poll released Monday.

Of the Republicans surveyed in the Quinnipiac University Poll, 68% said they would stay and fight compared to 40% of Democrats. Among Democrats, 52% said they would flee the country, compared to 25% of Republicans.
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If America were in the same position, that is, invaded by a much larger, much more powerful military, and the American citizens didn’t believe they were going to get invaded, and were still going about business as usual, the day before the invasion………. where would they flee to?

North America isn’t Europe. There’s only two alternatives on our borders and neither have the resources nor the weapons to stop an invasion from Cuba.

So, if you going to flee, ya better get going now……… because if you think going to Canada or Mexico is going to protect you, you’re going to be sadly mistaken. Neither country could or would last a week, if the US is invaded. If the US is ever invaded by a military, with the intent to conquer, Canada and Mexico will most likely already be over run.

In WWII there was no where flee to, for the Europeans, the only reason the Ukrainian’s can flee today is the rest of Europe is still open to flee to. How many years will that remain an option.

It was a stupid, politically motivated question and should probably have been a pole that asked how many would fight on the side of the invading army, against their own people, if the US was invaded? That would be a really interesting pole number to see because it’s a more a realistic one to contemplate.
 
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2lumpy, lets hope those turncoats that want to flee will take your advice and those 52% of liberal Dems. will flee now and make this a better country to live in. Wishful dreaming on my part.
I would give 5 to 1 odds that Pelosi and Schiff would be in the lead to leave.

RELH
 
2lumpy said:
If America were in the same position, that is, invaded by a much larger, much more powerful military, and the American citizens didn’t believe they were going to get invaded, and were still going about business as usual, the day before the invasion………. where would they flee to?

North America isn’t Europe. There’s only two alternatives on our borders and neither have the resources nor the weapons to stop an invasion from Cuba.

So, if you going to flee, ya better get going now……… because if you think going to Canada or Mexico is going to protect you, you’re going to be sadly mistaken. Neither country could or would last a week, if the US is invaded. If the US is ever invaded by a military, with the intent to conquer, Canada and Mexico will most likely already be over run.

In WWII there was no where flee to, for the Europeans, the only reason the Ukrainian’s can flee today is the rest of Europe is still open to flee to. How many years will that remain an option.

It was a stupid, politically motivated question and should probably have been a pole that asked how many would fight on the side of the invading army, against their own people, if the US was invaded? That would be a really interesting pole number to see because it’s a more a realistic one to contemplate.
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Don’t underestimate the number of weapons, ammunition and American dollars the Mexican Cartels have, not to mention the weapons and such the Mexican Military, Federales, State and local Police have also. Killing is a daily thing for the aforementioned and they are much more accustomed to it than any American.
 
Having served on medical boards which either allow or deny entry into the armed forces, (including fields such as aviation) there are very specific reasons why some people are denied entry. Sometimes the reason is financial (certain medical conditions are costly to treat and may not result in a productive soldier, sailor, etc.) and sometimes the reason is inability to physical perform duties expected of a soldier, airman, sailor or Marine.

An example is aviation. When I was active duty those with severe motion sickness were often denied entry into the flying world. Also, color blindness is considered DQ (disqualifying) for entry into aviation.

Flat feet...no good for any service as the resultant foot, ankle and leg problems would not make for an effective enlistment.
 
RELH said:
2lumpy, lets hope those turncoats that want to flee will take your advice and those 52% of liberal Dems. will flee now and make this a better country to live in. Wishful dreaming on my part.
I would give 5 to 1 odds that Pelosi and Schiff would be in the lead to leave.

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At this place in time, I’m more worried about the enemy within. way more than an invading army RELH.

If I were a country, with an eye on conquering North America, the way things are going and the left’s reluctance to fight for their country, here is what I’d do:

I would watch and assist the current internal US political parties continue to weaken, decay and erode the American Constitutional System of government and enterprise. I would assist where ever and when ever I could, to help make sure the left leaning leaders moved the country further toward socialism or worse when ever and how ever possible. Much like Soros is doing by funding all kinds of anti-America efforts and China is doing by manufacturing all our critical goods, at communist’s laborer’s wages. (I won’t call them slaves, I’ll just call them Chinese workers that are paid whatever their government decides to pay them.

If and when the left gets their wish and takes over the country, after it’s a socialist or worse nation, but before it’s has the chance to become strong and filled with strong loyal socialists or communists…….. that’s when I’d invade. I would no invade when 275 million, gun owning, American loyalists still have a powerful, well trained military.

Why would they not wait to invade when the majority is still to willing fight for the country. Much easier to defeat a country that is 75% willing to flee, rather than do it now, when there still 275 million American Patriots, who can and will fight.

Our enemies, especially the Chinese and the No. Koreans have always played the long game, they will let us rot from within before they move in.

That’s my guess.
 
feddoc said:
Having served on medical boards which either allow or deny entry into the armed forces, (including fields such as aviation) there are very specific reasons why some people are denied entry. Sometimes the reason is financial (certain medical conditions are costly to treat and may not result in a productive soldier, sailor, etc.) and sometimes the reason is inability to physical perform duties expected of a soldier, airman, sailor or Marine.

An example is aviation. When I was active duty those with severe motion sickness were often denied entry into the flying world. Also, color blindness is considered DQ (disqualifying) for entry into aviation.

Flat feet...no good for any service as the resultant foot, ankle and leg problems would not make for an effective enlistment.
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What about bone spurs?
 
My wife and I were talking awhile back and we decided we'd like to pull up stakes and immigrate to America....oh, wait.

If America got invaded, I would slip underground and start killing people I know who need killing and blame it on the war.
 
Mbogo said:
What about bone spurs
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Same with bone spurs. That condition is usually not agreeable with service entry.


As an aside, if one is already in the Armed Forces, bone spurs (along with many other conditions) is not usually a cause for discharge.
 
eelgrass said:
My wife and I were talking awhile back and we decided we'd like to pull up stakes and immigrate to America....oh, wait.

If America got invaded, I would slip underground and start killing people I know who need killing and blame it on the war.
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……… exactly what anarchists do. Never a better time to settle old scores.

Serbs and Croatians, packing centuries old civilian bruises, that got settled when Yukoslsvia turning inward, in 1992.

It’s never bloodless when you rot from within.
 
Bombing baby hospitals cant be good for business.
Wonder how long China will hang in there with Putin?
 
But they know the world cares.
And all they care about is $$$$.
Doesnt project a good look for them.
Just saying.
 
2lumpy said:
If America were in the same position, that is, invaded by a much larger, much more powerful military, and the American citizens didn’t believe they were going to get invaded, and were still going about business as usual, the day before the invasion………. where would they flee to?

North America isn’t Europe. There’s only two alternatives on our borders and neither have the resources nor the weapons to stop an invasion from Cuba.

So, if you going to flee, ya better get going now……… because if you think going to Canada or Mexico is going to protect you, you’re going to be sadly mistaken. Neither country could or would last a week, if the US is invaded. If the US is ever invaded by a military, with the intent to conquer, Canada and Mexico will most likely already be over run.

In WWII there was no where flee to, for the Europeans, the only reason the Ukrainian’s can flee today is the rest of Europe is still open to flee to. How many years will that remain an option.

It was a stupid, politically motivated question and should probably have been a pole that asked how many would fight on the side of the invading army, against their own people, if the US was invaded? That would be a really interesting pole number to see because it’s a more a realistic one to contemplate.
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An invading force would need to secure a foothold in either Mexico or Canada first. They can't in Canada because of the travel corridors. They'd be bottlenecked and an easy target from the air. Mexico has relatively nothing from its economic strongholds in the large metro areas, the further north they go, the less available resources. What stops a ground invasion is fuel. Neither the north or south offers enough, and again, topography.

The assaults would need to come from the air or sea, again, fuel is the limiting resource. A sea approach would be annihilated by missile warfare from the US mainland, the same with air combat. China wouldn't stand a chance and neither would Russia after their Ukraine SNAFU is finished.

Pearl Harbor was a valuable and painful lesson, although, there were warnings but they were ignored.

And, we have more snipers in this country than anywhere else in the world. Just not in UT, because they're going to ban rangefinders next...
 
Moron of the day--John Kerry. Today Kerry said the Ukrainian crisis pales in comparison to climate refugees. No wonder things are going to hell in a handbasket with idiots like this in high positions in the administration.
 
Hmmmmm.....I wonder if any trouble makers have wandered over our southern border in the last couple years.....
 
John Kerry takes that climate position for one reason and one reason only. He is heavy invested in that industry and is getting rich as long as it is promoted. He is not a nut case, just a greedy black hearted devil that does not give a damn about his fellow humans.
RELH
 
Homer said:
Hmmmmm.....I wonder if any trouble makers have wandered over our southern border in the last couple years.....
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Naw, not possible.

FWIW, in the days following 9-11, I was stationed at Naval Air Weapons Station, China Lake. The front gate was nearly parallel with a road leading into town; that road turned to the south and formed one of the main streets of Ridgecrest, CA. Of course the base beefed up security by installing truck barriers in a zig zag pattern.

Anyway there was a convenience store to the SE of the main gate. The convenience store had their security cameras trained...not on their pumps or the front door....but on the main gate of our base.

Yea, those fuhkers have been here for years. No reason for them to be concerned now.

FWIW, did you read that consideration has been given to send BP agents to Ukraine?
 
larrbo said:
Moron of the day--John Kerry. Today Kerry said the Ukrainian crisis pales in comparison to climate refugees. No wonder things are going to hell in a handbasket with idiots like this in high positions in the administration.
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It's a mental sickness when you compare a lie to an actual crisis of violence.
 
roadrunner said:
An invading force would need to secure a foothold in either Mexico or Canada first. They can't in Canada because of the travel corridors. They'd be bottlenecked and an easy target from the air. Mexico has relatively nothing from its economic strongholds in the large metro areas, the further north they go, the less available resources. What stops a ground invasion is fuel. Neither the north or south offers enough, and again, topography.

The assaults would need to come from the air or sea, again, fuel is the limiting resource. A sea approach would be annihilated by missile warfare from the US mainland, the same with air combat. China wouldn't stand a chance and neither would Russia after their Ukraine SNAFU is finished.

Pearl Harbor was a valuable and painful lesson, although, there were warnings but they were ignored.

And, we have more snipers in this country than anywhere else in the world. Just not in UT, because they're going to ban rangefinders next...
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The invading force is already here, there are over 50 million illegal aliens in this country. There are thousands of legal aliens in sleeper cells from all around the world, countries that hate us as well as like us. Honestly nobody needs to invade us, we are going to implode within. Look back at history and all the great conquering countries imploded within and they all have one thing in common, they couldn’t control their borders. It’s just a matter of time…
 
feddoc said:
Naw, not possible.

FWIW, in the days following 9-11, I was stationed at Naval Air Weapons Station, China Lake. The front gate was nearly parallel with a road leading into town; that road turned to the south and formed one of the main streets of Ridgecrest, CA. Of course the base beefed up security by installing truck barriers in a zig zag pattern.

Anyway there was a convenience store to the SE of the main gate. The convenience store had their security cameras trained...not on their pumps or the front door....but on the main gate of our base.

Yea, those fuhkers have been here for years. No reason for them to be concerned now.

FWIW, did you read that consideration has been given to send BP agents to Ukraine?
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BP agents aren’t going to Ukraine under these conditions. You are correct about them being here for years. In the 80’s when I was on day shift in South Texas I used to sign cut the tractor cuts at the river in our area of responsibility, there were many times I found Middle Eastern Passports strewn on the ground. Smugglers crossed these people at night and when they put their clothes back on inevitably things fell out of their pockets. Now they move these Special Interest Aliens through tunnels. The Mexican cartel will do anything for money.
 
Bigfoot 1 said:
BP agents aren’t going to Ukraine under these conditions. You are correct about them being here for years. In the 80’s when I was on day shift in South Texas I used to sign cut the tractor cuts at the river in our area of responsibility, there were many times I found Middle Eastern Passports strewn on the ground. Smugglers crossed these people at night and when they put their clothes back on inevitably things fell out of their pockets. Now they move these Special Interest Aliens through tunnels. The Mexican cartel will do anything for money.
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I was in south Texas in the 90s. We flew some SAR missions, mostly training stuff, and I had the chance to do some drug interdiction runs with the USCG. We landed once on the beach of South Padre Island to look at a couple things on the beach. It was a collection of backpacks, water, clothing and passports.
 
Bigfoot 1 said:
The invading force is already here, there are over 50 million illegal aliens in this country. There are thousands of legal aliens in sleeper cells from all around the world, countries that hate us as well as like us. Honestly nobody needs to invade us, we are going to implode within. Look back at history and all the great conquering countries imploded within and they all have one thing in common, they couldn’t control their borders. It’s just a matter of time…
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That's not why "conquering countries" fell, and, it's a good thing the US isn't a conquering country by definition.

Russia and China are though...
 
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feddoc said:
I was in south Texas in the 90s. We flew some SAR missions, mostly training stuff, and I had the chance to do some drug interdiction runs with the USCG. We landed once on the beach of South Padre Island to look at a couple things on the beach. It was a collection of backpacks, water, clothing and passports.
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We chewed some of the same sand. I assisted the Coast Guard in raiding some Shark Camps looking for narcotics on South Padre Island and I was detailed to Corpus Christi to inspect shrimp boats, all in the early to mid 90’s. I also took an 8 pointer on the coveted and hard to draw Laguna Atascosa while I was stationed down there. I had to use a bicycle to get back in there. Great memories.
 
roadrunner said:
That's not why "conquering countries" fell, and, it's a good thing the US isn't a conquering country by definition.

Russia and China are though...
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Sure it is, just look around the world today, notice all the chaos with countries who don’t control their borders compared with countries who do. I think the U.S. conquered the Native Americans then Conquered the Mexicans. We are still a formidable force occupying many foreign countries around the world. We don’t conquer countries, we just attempt to influence them in many different ways. Tell my why all those great countries generations ago fell in your opinion.
 
Bigfoot 1 said:
Sure it is, just look around the world today, notice all the chaos with countries who don’t control their borders compared with countries who do. I think the U.S. conquered the Native Americans then Conquered the Mexicans. We are still a formidable force occupying many foreign countries around the world. We don’t conquer countries, we just attempt to influence them in many different ways. Tell my why all those great countries generations ago fell in your opinion.
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Not true. Antiquity shows those who were conquered were subjugated into whatever empire did the conquering. Tribes today have it pretty good, actually, with many more rights than you have. If a tribe has it "rough", place the blame where it lies with the tribal government.

Mexico is still a nation recognized today. The dispute ended with giving up land as part of the treaty, Mexico wasn't "conquered".

Empires have fallen throughout the millennia because they couldn't sustain themselves economically. The best example is the Roman Empire. It also had moral issues, but that's a discussion for a different day.

Russia and China will follow this same route.

Putin is desperate. His actions show that and Russia is in deep trouble economically. China wants to expand because they can't sustain themselves without a global economy for support.

If everyone who needs oil turns their back to Russia, China would still be able to buy oil from them, but, not at the rate required to keep the pipelines in Russia at a flow pressure that also keeps the wells flowing. Oil produced in the Siberian regions, if shut in, likely will never flow again. The only way China could get oil is from Russia Pacific coast. That's limited and wouldn't sustain the country for private and military consumption. Their manufacturing industry would collapse as a result.

That's how "conquering country's" fall...
 
Your second sentence proves me right! If those countries could control their borders they would have never been conquered! :ROFLMAO: There are over 500 recognized tribes in the U.S. today. They do not have more rights than I do, and they all don’t have it pretty good. I live in a State where the population is made up of 11% Native Americans. They are just like everybody else. They have the rich and they have the poor. They have the same problems as the rest of society. The U.S. conquered the Native Americans and took the land they had before Americans arrived. The U.S. defeated Mexico in a war and took a good chunk of their land in the process. They couldn’t control their borders. These are facts. Conquered/having been overcome and taken control of by a military force. I won’t apologize for anything in the past. I have it pretty good even as things sit now.

We are in deep trouble also economically. We can not sustain ourselves without a global economy also. Russia and China can get oil from the Middle East, they can get oil from Venezuela. They will be just fine. If we don’t approach this Ukrainian war the right way that mad man just may set off a few nukes. He has nothing to lose and we have a bunch of amateurs running the White House. Lord help us all.
 
Bigfoot 1 said:
The U.S. defeated Mexico in a war and took a good chunk of their land in the process. They couldn’t control their borders. These are facts. Conquered/having been overcome and taken control of by a military force. I won’t apologize for anything in the past. I have it pretty good even as things sit now.
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Cortes' conquered Mexico long before that.
 
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Thoughts on this?
I think she was misguided, and I would bet that she would love to be in the USA standing for the national anthem right now.

Don't make it political.
 
Bigfoot 1 said:
Your second sentence proves me right! If those countries could control their borders they would have never been conquered! :ROFLMAO: There are over 500 recognized tribes in the U.S. today. They do not have more rights than I do, and they all don’t have it pretty good. I live in a State where the population is made up of 11% Native Americans. They are just like everybody else. They have the rich and they have the poor. They have the same problems as the rest of society. The U.S. conquered the Native Americans and took the land they had before Americans arrived. The U.S. defeated Mexico in a war and took a good chunk of their land in the process. They couldn’t control their borders. These are facts. Conquered/having been overcome and taken control of by a military force. I won’t apologize for anything in the past. I have it pretty good even as things sit now.

We are in deep trouble also economically. We can not sustain ourselves without a global economy also. Russia and China can get oil from the Middle East, they can get oil from Venezuela. They will be just fine. If we don’t approach this Ukrainian war the right way that mad man just may set off a few nukes. He has nothing to lose and we have a bunch of amateurs running the White House. Lord help us all.
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You're spiraling in circles :rolleyes:
 
EVILNR said:
Bombing baby hospitals cant be good for business.
Wonder how long China will hang in there with Putin?
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How do you know Russia did any of that? What proof do we have of anything? Putin is a slimey POS commie tyrant, don't get me wrong, but Ukraine are insects too, working with BIden family inc. to buy influence. They are all filthy dirty with corruption.

Our U.S. gov't is completely corrupt, you guys that think you have it all figured out based on what our lyin'-ass media is portraying are nuts.
 
Bigfoot 1 said:
Your second sentence proves me right! If those countries could control their borders they would have never been conquered! :ROFLMAO: There are over 500 recognized tribes in the U.S. today. They do not have more rights than I do, and they all don’t have it pretty good. I live in a State where the population is made up of 11% Native Americans. They are just like everybody else. They have the rich and they have the poor. They have the same problems as the rest of society. The U.S. conquered the Native Americans and took the land they had before Americans arrived. The U.S. defeated Mexico in a war and took a good chunk of their land in the process. They couldn’t control their borders. These are facts. Conquered/having been overcome and taken control of by a military force. I won’t apologize for anything in the past. I have it pretty good even as things sit now.

We are in deep trouble also economically. We can not sustain ourselves without a global economy also. Russia and China can get oil from the Middle East, they can get oil from Venezuela. They will be just fine. If we don’t approach this Ukrainian war the right way that mad man just may set off a few nukes. He has nothing to lose and we have a bunch of amateurs running the White House. Lord help us all.
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Russia 'get oil'? Seriously? Put down the crack pipe. They are a huge producer, dude....
 
feddoc said:
Having served on medical boards which either allow or deny entry into the armed forces, (including fields such as aviation) there are very specific reasons why some people are denied entry. Sometimes the reason is financial (certain medical conditions are costly to treat and may not result in a productive soldier, sailor, etc.) and sometimes the reason is inability to physical perform duties expected of a soldier, airman, sailor or Marine.

An example is aviation. When I was active duty those with severe motion sickness were often denied entry into the flying world. Also, color blindness is considered DQ (disqualifying) for entry into aviation.

Flat feet...no good for any service as the resultant foot, ankle and leg problems would not make for an effective enlistment.
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Flat feet got me deferred in 72 the last draft.... Officer told me I had the flattest feet he ever saw...drafted in High School birthday is the 6th my number was 6..LOL
 
broomd said:
Russia 'get oil'? Seriously? Put down the crack pipe. They are a huge producer, dude....
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I’ve never done dope, dude. I was responding to a previous poster who said that Russia wouldn’t be able to get oil if this, that and one thing or another happened to them. You see it’s not what you don’t know that gets you in trouble, it’s what you know for certain that’s just not true.
 
broomd said:
How do you know Russia did any of that? What proof do we have of anything? Putin is a slimey POS commie tyrant, don't get me wrong, but Ukraine are insects too, working with BIden family inc. to buy influence. They are all filthy dirty with corruption.

Our U.S. gov't is completely corrupt, you guys that think you have it all figured out based on what our lyin'-ass media is portraying are nuts.
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Yeah I’m sure the Ukrainians bombed their own hospital killing women and children just to get a little world sympathy. They probably bombed our World Trade Center also.
 
Bigfoot 1 said:
I’ve never done dope, dude. I was responding to a previous poster who said that Russia wouldn’t be able to get oil if this, that and one thing or another happened to them. You see it’s not what you don’t know that gets you in trouble, it’s what you know for certain that’s just not true.
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Who said Russia couldn't get oil?
 
It could be that many didn’t take her seriously. If you look at the poster she’s holding, there are lots of mistakes. She has capital and lower case letters mixed in with each other and all of her capital N are backwards. She may seem like a regular dumb ass to the educated.
 
Captain_coues said:
It could be that many didn’t take her seriously. If you look at the poster she’s holding, there are lots of mistakes. She has capital and lower case letters mixed in with each other and all of her capital N are backwards. She may seem like a regular dumb ass to the educated.
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That photo & snippet of text was straight out of the NY Times feed I get every day. I see where they are now using some app to provide stuff within Russia even tho Putin cut off the normal free press efforts.
 

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