This. Due to work and scheduling issues, on my deer application, I’ve been buying points for 10+ years. Sitting on 17 now. I’ll continue to by points only until everything lines up at work. I already know this year I’ll be purchasing a bonus point only. I want to spend several weeks in 13B without having to hurry back to work! I’m in no rush! ?You need to know how many guys at each point level have been riding the pine with points only and they don't show up in the draw reports. If AZ is anything like WY there are a **** ton; WY averages less than 1/3 of all applicants with points at each point level actually applying for an Elk tag.
You got me beat. ?9 archery bull tag!
No draw for me. I have 24 elk points & 6 antelope points. It shows those amounts on my bonus point totals but only gave me 23 & 5 on my applications!!!!!!! The same as my 2020 application totals. What a **** show!!!!!!!!!!!! Probably never added my loyalty points on my applications!!!!
I would agree but I have several family members who's "individual bonus points" are showing incorrectly. Here's a list of screw ups I've seen so far:It helps to know what you're looking at when viewing your application on the portal. Specifically, under the column heading "individual bonus points".
His may be but so far 8 people I know their points are wrong.The app screen in the portal doesn’t show loyalty nor hunter Ed points, his screen is normal for an app with a loyalty point.
I did notDid you draw shedneck?
Portal now says "Not Drawn". This was for my Step Dad who is almost to the end of his hunting years. Wanted to find a hunt where he had a decent chance without lots of hiking.I would almost expect a late charge for that because last year all nr with 13+ drew a tag and it's hard to believe there was point creep on that hunt this year.
Crap im sorry manI did not
It’s all good, but thank you. I’m not a cynical person, but it’s difficult to have any trust in the Arizona draw system THIS year. I play the odds in 10+ states every year and rarely complain, so please don’t think I’m wearing a tin foil hat. Arizona draw was an absolute pile of **** this year. I don’t care about all of the comments that talk about willingness to wait as long as they get it right. Those people are putting their trust in the wrong hands without questioning the source. I find it hard to believe that a unit that took 11/12 points to draw two years ago when the season dates were not substantially more ideal, took 14 or more to draw this year.Crap im sorry man
Not that it will make you feel better but this is what 5bn early archery looked like last year for NR. I dont know the year before numbers but 14 is still a few points off.It’s all good, but thank you. I’m not a cynical person, but it’s difficult to have any trust in the Arizona draw system THIS year. I play the odds in 10+ states every year and rarely complain, so please don’t think I’m wearing a tin foil hat. Arizona draw was an absolute pile of **** this year. I don’t care about all of the comments that talk about willingness to wait as long as they get it right. Those people are putting their trust in the wrong hands without questioning the source. I find it hard to believe that a unit that took 11/12 points to draw two years ago when the season dates were not substantially more ideal, took 14 or more to draw this year.
Not that it will make you feel better but this is what 5bn early archery looked like last year for NR. I dont know the year before numbers but 14 is still a few points off.View attachment 35587
Here is one example. Person has 7 bonus points and 1 loyalty. No hunter ed. They show 7 individual and 9 average. Years past individual and group points always matched the total number of points regardless if they were bonus hunter ed or loyalty. Suddenly this year they don't? And to top it off they're wrong.
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When I check the "details" on my app just like you explained, it shows my both my Individual and Bonus Points and Group Bonus Point as 0. This is not correct. But the draw is history, and I am screwed.When I click on my draw results & then click details it says Individual Bonus Points 13. I have 15 counting Hunter Ed & Loyalty points. In small print on lower left corner it says Group Average Bonus points 15 for this application. I applied alone so they used all my points for this draw. It does the same thing on my Pronghorn application. Kind of a weird way to show points.
What position?When I check the "details" on my app just like you explained, it shows my both my Individual and Bonus Points and Group Bonus Point as 0. This is not correct. But the draw is history, and I am screwed.
We spend years accumulating point and deferring good hunts so that we may have a chance at a great hunt. It is a shame that the AZGFD has put us all in this position.
I show 0 in the individual points and 1 for group points on my Antelope app; this was my 1st year applying for antelope and I only have a hunter-ed point for that species.When I check the "details" on my app just like you explained, it shows my both my Individual and Bonus Points and Group Bonus Point as 0. This is not correct. But the draw is history, and I am screwed.
We spend years accumulating point and deferring good hunts so that we may have a chance at a great hunt. It is a shame that the AZGFD has put us all in this position.
What position?What position?
Yeah but my points where 5 going in and now it says it is only 4 on the drawThis years points take a while to get updated.
What does it show for group bonus points 2nd photo left side? That is where my loyalty and hunter ed points were added in/shown on my apps. Can't read yours as the photo is cut-off on the left side...
okay here you go!What does it show for group bonus points 2nd photo left side? That is where my loyalty and hunter ed points were added in/shown on my apps. Can't read yours as the photo is cut-off on the left side...
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Well it looks like they gave you an extra point then because per your photo you went into the draw with 6 points not 5!okay well it shows group points but I only have 5
Dang, they were throwing out free points! Still didn’t help you. LolNever mind I even asked!!!! I see they gave me a extra point this year! my bad
that hurts!25 N/R points. No tag for me. I applied for 10 and 3A/3C early rifle.
This year’s point won’t show up for awhile. But yeah, your portal should at least show the 4. Many are reporting the same issue. I’d be on the phone.Question guys...me and my hunting buddy both noticed it says we have no bonus points and didn’t recieve one. Is this just another snafu in their draw program? Or do I need to get on the horn? I should have 5 points now and my account shows 0. Don’t want to be the 500th guy to call them about the same subject
Cool. Just checked mine and it’s updated too. It wasn’t this morning.My points are updated on my portal. This years elk & pronghorn points are there now.
Damn, Savage, I sure hope they show up tomorrow. Keep us updatedMy points still are incorrect, show as zero. I am going to give them until the end of the week then I will start lighting up their phones.
Did they ever get your points corrected?My points still are incorrect, show as zero. I am going to give them until the end of the week then I will start lighting up their phones.
My total still shows zero. Unbelievable they are running such a garbage system. No way that this years draw was true and fair. The only way Id believe it is by seeing an audit of the applicants and the point totals AZ used for each of them.Did they ever get your points corrected?
Just tell them mail me a tag, tell them it’s on oil can !! I’ll take it ? Sounds like Arizona was a **** storm for elk and antelope, hope they get it straight for deer cause that’s where I’ll try and actually draw and not just the point option I did for elk !!?When I applied they charged me for 2 NR licenses. I called them yesterday for the 3rd time they still have not credited me back.
On the bright side I did draw a tag.
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