Homer, can we get a “thanks Manny”?
I obviously missed something… ?Homer, can we get a “thanks Manny”?
....and protect yourself from convicted child molestors.....17 yo with a bullet proof vest.
”Hey mom, I’m headed up to Kenosha”
”Ok sweetie, don’t forget your AR and bulletproof vest.”
Hey, I like a happy ending as much as the next guy. So thanks Kyle, hope it was worth it.....and protect yourself from convicted child molestors.....
What? A criminal with an illegal weapon? Amen Manny.But Remember!
The JOKER Pulled a Hand Gun Out He Didn't Have a Permit for!
But That's OK!
Like You've All Heard Me Say Many Times:
You Pull a Gun Out!
You'd BEST Be Damn Well Ready To Use it!
Kyle was a little old for him.....he liked them hairless....That child molester that was killed was into young boys. It could be that was the original motive for him pursuing Rittenhouse, and then things escalated. We will never know but that’s a possibility.
And it was dumb for him to put himself there. That’s the only point I believe I’ve made. All this other triangulation is people trying to dress him up like Jesus.Cmon Blue. You're one of the smart guys here. The kid was attacked and he defended himself. End of story, case closed.
So that’s going to be the typical blue response now… “Manny”What? A criminal with an illegal weapon? Amen Manny.
It was easier than pointing out the irony of the illegal gun argument advanced by the anti gun control crowd. My tribe.So that’s going to be the typical blue response now… “Manny”
This is why our redistricting committee will do more to defend our democracy than ol Kyle and is AR.Blue.... I appreciate your civility and big picture perspectives. Both are somewhat rare in these parts.
I think my fears and concerns come from two primary sources.
1. Family and friends. Two very close friends who’s ancestors came to Jamaica from Europe in the 1600s, escaped under the Papa Doc era in the 1960s, my niece’s husband who came here from Venezuela, sometime in early 2000’s his parents and sister are still there, a neighbor from South Africa, and two neighbor widows who escaped out of Germany in the late 1930’s, both have passed away now.
Each of them, over a period of 40 years have shared many, similar experience, that took place in their previous home countries. Very similar.
2. I’ve read way, way too many history books.
Through media, of various kinds, I’m seeing far too many events here in the US that mirror many of these reports/stories/books. That concerns me a great deal.
My grandparents were all Americans, my parents and I were born and raised in Alberta, Canada. I became extremely disappointed to the Pierre Trudeau government in Canada and the socialist movement that started in 1960s. Married to an American woman I had the opportunity to immigrate to the US in 1975 and did.
It scares the hell out of me, for my children and grandchildren, to see what I absolutely believe is an active and worriesomely successful socialist/communist movement in the US. I’m not worried about myself, at 74, I doubt I’ll be here to see where this stuff takes us, but I am concerned for the future of all our children, for sure my own, if not anyone else’s.
This is a very real concern for me.
Voting used to be the solution but I’m concerned there are now enough socialists/communists in the US today to out vote the rest of us. Votes is what brought Hitler, Papa Doc, Mandela, and Chávez to power. They then took their citizens vote away. That’s how it works, the corruption of the freedom to vote. Using freedom to take freedom. It’s a well practiced playbook.
Crazy? ..... half the country believe I am.
Vest was given to him by a local police department a long time before the incident if I remember correctly17 yo with a bullet proof vest.
”Hey mom, I’m headed up to Kenosha”
”Ok sweetie, don’t forget your AR and bulletproof vest.”
Rut roh. Interesting. Did they give the BLM dudes vests also? I can say confidently that my local SO would NOT issue me a bulletproof vest for any reason I can think of.Vest was given to him by a local police department a long time before the incident if I remember correctly
You should watch the trial then. It explains it all.Rut roh. Interesting. Did they give the BLM dudes vests also? I can say confidently that my local SO would NOT issue me a bulletproof vest for any reason I can think of.
This gets weirder all the time.
Ya....... proves he was stupid........ cause he knew he was gunna kill somebody....... it was premeditated!!! Ya right.You should watch the trial then. It explains it all.
"When his attorney asked how a 17-year-old had a bulletproof vest in his possession, Rittenhouse said it was “issued to me by the Grayslake Police Department,” where he participated in the youth explorers cadet program."
"Rittenhouse testified that he then put his own bulletproof vest on Smith and said, “Here, Nick, I don’t need my bulletproof vest. I will help people with first aid."
you get weirder all the time.....Rut roh. Interesting. Did they give the BLM dudes vests also? I can say confidently that my local SO would NOT issue me a bulletproof vest for any reason I can think of.
This gets weirder all the time.
Whew….I thought it was everyone else. The patriotic call to be a rooftop sniper defending Korean laundry’s threw me.you get weirder all the time.....
Kyle is just a domestic away.?Regarding the three rioters having criminal records being coincidental...... I got curious about Joshua Kiminski and decided to see if there was any mention of him having had any problems with the law. This came up:
“Court records show he has a lengthy criminal history in Wisconsin for carrying a concealed weapon and other offenses. He had an open domestic abuse criminal case at the time of the Rittenhouse shooting. Joshua Ziminski also went by the online pseudonym of Alex Blaine.”
I have no idea if it’s true but if it is, It once again makes me wonder if there isn’t something mentally wrong with these violent rioters. Four for four doesn’t seem very coincidental to me.
Just saying........
Well!
A Few Career Law Breakers were Shot!
Bur Nobody was LaVoyed!
Yep. Just stay home or.......... protest without violence. Peaceful gatherings to express frustration or injustice are a healthy part of America freedom. Protests outside the rule of law are anti-American, for all sides.Kyle is just a domestic away.?
I would love to see the quals of the counter protestors. If Jan 6 is any indication, they’re probably eagle scouts too.
I believe you were right when you said it’s both sides. Maybe more people should just stay home.
*AmericanPunk went to a volatile situation with a gun. He killed people. He didn't defend any freedom I have. And I don't feel the need to defend my freedom by killing another Anerican. Kid needs prison. mtmuley
Punk went to a volatile situation with a gun. He killed people. He didn't defend any freedom I have. And I don't feel the need to defend my freedom by killing another Anerican. Kid needs prison. mtmuley
I hope to hell you never have to mt...,,, I don't feel the need to defend my freedom by killing another Anerican.......
It tells me, some people believe they can over throw the current system, with violence and threats of violence. Right now, it appears,THEY want to turn it up a notch. Hope I’m wrong. Really hope I’m wrong.The judge has received death threats. What does that tell you?
I’m evolving on this. I’m thinking all the idiots should go to the protests and shoot each other.I hope to hell you never have to mt.
I hope no one ever does, I just don’t share your confidence these “incidents” won’t continue and can be resolved without violence. Having said that, it they do, these will not be the last unfortunate deaths.
Again, I have no way to know the truth from this quote but for what it’s worth, this Kenosha mess isn’t an isolated incident in our country.
“At least 11 Americans have been killed while participating in political demonstrations this year and another 14 have died in other incidents linked to political unrest, according to new data from a non-profit monitoring political unrest in the United States.”
Apparently from a 2020 report.
We're running out of coal and oil so I suggest we at least have a pipeline to the Middle East. Maybe even be best friends, like before and after Trump.If we could keep them corralled and if they would promised to use them, I might be persuaded to keep them supplied in all the ammunition they need.
I’ve argued, for the last 25 years, the rest of the world needs to build a impenetrable wall around the Middle East. Anyone that wants in, have at it, but once you’re in, no one can leave. Dump every imaginable weapon, other than chemical or nuclear into the encloser, keep pouring in weapons and munitions until it’s been quiet for 50 years, then give it 50 more. After 100 years, send in an inspection committee, to determine if those folks have learned to get along and can live together without hate and violence. If it’s determined they can’t, lock it back up for another 100 and dump some more ammunition in. Check every 100 years...... until they’re all dead or figured out a way to get along. The rest of the world should not have to put up with their bullshi!.
Pipe dreams...... but it’s therapeutic to think what would fix these messes.
Too many guys here keep saying he had no business being there with a gun. Is he a citizen of the U.S...? Then he can carry a weapon wherever he wants. Far too many of you aren't even arguing the point. Were his actions done in defense of his life.? Yes.
He had a right to be there. He had a right to have a gun. He defended his life (according to all accounts, including one of the victims). There should never have been charges. He is a political prisoner by the woke mob. Which some of you appear to be a part of. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Very true. Ask the 3 guys who were shot. They could have stayed home and not tried to kill a 17 year old kid.Rights aren't free from responsibility or consequences.
Someone said, for every action there is a reaction......Very true. Ask the 3 guys who were shot. They could have stayed home and not tried to kill a 17 year old kid.
If he'd been shooting Hammers he would only be looking at 3 count's of attempted murder.Punk went to a volatile situation with a gun. He killed people. He didn't defend any freedom I have. And I don't feel the need to defend my freedom by killing another Anerican. Kid needs prison. mtmuley
Very true. Ask the 3 guys who were shot. They could have stayed home and not tried to kill a 17 year old kid.
He defended his own freedom to liveHe killed people. He didn't defend any freedom I have.
And you would have said Jesus was stupid for ever riding into Jerusalem.And it was dumb for him to put himself there. That’s the only point I believe I’ve made. All this other triangulation is people trying to dress him up like Jesus.
If he was a grownup instead of a stupid punk, you would say he’s a dumbazz.
And you would have said Jesus was stupid for ever riding into Jerusalem.
Weapons charges dismissed.
Kyle Rittenhouse jury deliberations set to start Tuesday as closing arguments finish
The 18-year-old from Illinois faces a possible lifetime in prison if convicted of the most serious charge against him.www.9news.com
there will not be a riot after the verdict....
Isn’t that a ZZ Top song?And you would have said Jesus was stupid for ever riding into Jerusalem.
I don’t really care about what happens to him, but I’m curious whether you think this is a W or a L for gun owners?Aww c'mon! Where are all you "it's illegal for a 17yr old to open carry a rifle in Wisconsin" guys?
Aww c'mon! Where are all you "it's illegal for a 17yr old to open carry a rifle in Wisconsin" guys?
It depends on which “court of public opinion” your referring to. Half the public will say W the other half will say L.I don’t really care about what happens to him, but I’m curious whether you think this is a W or a L for gun owners?
I’m speaking about the court of public opinion. I’m leaning to L.
I would agree….but ….most restrictive gun laws are local and WI is a progressive paradise. So….I’m not sure the 51/49 thing works. And, don’t forget which side owns the press.It depends on which “court of public opinion” your referring to. Half the public will say W the other half will say L.
It's illegal for a 17yr old to carry a rifle in Wisconsin. Notice how he got off, a barrel length.
There is no dispute that Rittenhouse was 17 when he carried an AR-style semi-automatic rifle on the streets of Kenosha and used it.
But the defense argued that Wisconsin law has an exception related to the length of a weapon's barrel. Prosecutors argued that the defense was misreading the statute. Judge Bruce Schroeder had twice sided with prosecutors earlier in declining to dismiss the charge, but he also said the law was confusingly written.
After prosecutors conceded Monday that Rittenhouse’s rifle was not short-barreled, the judge threw out the charge
Grade A, first ballot hall of fame clown for sure. Its funny to me how often liars use the phrase "trust me."Prosecutor is a ?
There used to be this other famous dude who loved the phrase "Let me be clear". Immediately after saying it he would lie straight to your face.Grade A, first ballot hall of fame clown for sure. Its funny to me how often liars use the phrase "trust me."
Tracy Byrd??....lolIsn’t that a ZZ Top song?
I figured he said that because he knows everyone can see right through him?There used to be this other famous dude who loved the phrase "Let me be clear". Immediately after saying it he would lie straight to your face.
Because it's illegal for a 17yr old to open carry a short barreled rifle in Wisconsin. Meaning it's legal for a 17yr old to open carry a standard length rifle, in the judges interpretation of the statute.
The trials not about how he got there. Or at least in the legal sense it shouldn’t be. The trials about self defense or murder and it’s pretty obviously self defense. I dont care how old he isAnd it was dumb for him to put himself there. That’s the only point I believe I’ve made. All this other triangulation is people trying to dress him up like Jesus.
If he was a grownup instead of a stupid punk, you would say he’s a dumbazz.
so you really aren't aware of an SBR???....all new to you??It's illegal for a 17yr old to carry a rifle in Wisconsin. Notice how he got off, a barrel length.
There is no dispute that Rittenhouse was 17 when he carried an AR-style semi-automatic rifle on the streets of Kenosha and used it.
But the defense argued that Wisconsin law has an exception related to the length of a weapon's barrel. Prosecutors argued that the defense was misreading the statute. Judge Bruce Schroeder had twice sided with prosecutors earlier in declining to dismiss the charge, but he also said the law was confusingly written.
After prosecutors conceded Monday that Rittenhouse’s rifle was not short-barreled, the judge threw out the charge
I don’t believe I opined on the gun charges. My point all along is he’s a juvenile - who acted like one on the stand - who obviously lacked the maturity to make good decisions. As has been pointed out repeatedly the only reason he’s around to bawl like a little girl on tv is dumb luck.The trials not about how he got there. Or at least in the legal sense it shouldn’t be. The trials about self defense or murder and it’s pretty obviously self defense. I dont care how old he is
don't try to use your discover card though.....I don’t believe I opined on the gun charges. My point all along is he’s a juvenile - who acted like one on the stand - who obviously lacked the maturity to make good decisions. As has been pointed out repeatedly the only reason he’s around to bawl like a little girl on tv is dumb luck.
Punk made a bad decision and I stand by that. Report back when those civil suits are done. And don’t forget to put your money where your mouth is and donate to his cause. Our republic depends on it.
Worth saying again.The trials not about how he got there. Or at least in the legal sense it shouldn’t be. The trials about self defense or murder and it’s pretty obviously self defense. I dont care how old he is
Hey Hossy!
LaVoy's Long Gun Must Of Really Scared You?
You're Smarter Than That Hossy!
Not Sayin LaVoy Was Right!
He Wasn't!
But To Be SKEERED Of LaVoy's Long Gun Would Be A F'N Joke!
Exactly.Yes he made a dumb mistake. The city made a bigger dumb mistake in not trying to stop the riots and looting. Now they will end up paying.
The D.A. made a even bigger mistake by overcharging Rittenhouse trying to appease the BLM and ANTIFA mob. Because of that violation of Rittenhouse's rights, the city will be paying for his total defense fund and giving him enough pocket change to live on for quiet some time.
The city could come out ahead on arresting that last suspect that Rittenhouse wounded and is now suing the city for 10 million. Arrest him for ADW as he should have been arrested and make a deal with him to drop his frivolous lawsuit.
Yes Rittenhouse was a idiot for going there, but the biggest idiots were the liberal leaders of that city that allowed mob rule and stood by with their thumbs in their bunghole while the city burned.
RELH
I got a friend who is a Sheriff. He gets to go home to his family, guys like Lavoy had a choice, he chose to leave his, the cops don't.
Cops Ain't Always Right There Hossy!
For a guy that is the hardest working man in Utah you sure watch alot of this trial. ?It's illegal for a 17yr old to carry a rifle in Wisconsin. Notice how he got off, a barrel length.
There is no dispute that Rittenhouse was 17 when he carried an AR-style semi-automatic rifle on the streets of Kenosha and used it.
But the defense argued that Wisconsin law has an exception related to the length of a weapon's barrel. Prosecutors argued that the defense was misreading the statute. Judge Bruce Schroeder had twice sided with prosecutors earlier in declining to dismiss the charge, but he also said the law was confusingly written.
After prosecutors conceded Monday that Rittenhouse’s rifle was not short-barreled, the judge threw out the charge
For a guy that is the hardest working man in Utah you sure watch alot of this trial. ?
Does it ever make you feel like you are in the loony bin?Haven't seen a second. Don't even have cable/satellite.
Lots of podcasts while staring at gray walls
No. He'd still would have been a 17yr old in possession of a firearm.
Wisconsin law is pretty clear about that.
True, you didn’t. ?"If we look back on this thread, how many of us started out calling out Rittenhouse for being 17 with an AR......... before we added any other comments about the shooting. Almost all of us started with that premise. It was, for God’s sake, the primary focus, of even those who believed he shot 3 people in self defense."
Well this one for sure lump. But I never did.
WrongAnd..I should have added with an ILLEGALLY possessed firearm, of which he is guilty as charged.
Does it ever make you feel like you are in the loony bin?
I believe he actually wants it thrown out with prejudice.It seems the case had a lot invested in the legality of Rittenhouse carrying a AR at the age of 17. THEY’RE entire case was built on the false premise that it was illegal for him to be there with the others, armed with that weaponi. By virtue of that, THEY painted him guilty before the first shooting ever took place.... so how could anyone trust anything he did, said he did, didn’t do, or said he didn’t do...... he was committing a crime before the riot/protest ever got starte. It was a critical component, in positioning his credibility and his real intent.
All of that bad/stupid/evil/power hungry, character assignation claim, was calculated to support that he was not defending himself, but the illegal punk kid came looking to do harm. After THEY manufactured that motive,THEY then spent the rest of the trial, poorly but certainly, using that “foundation lie” to justify why, this punk illegal behaving young kid, went on killing spree. Thereby confirming the bias THEY established at the beginning and asking the jury to accept their lies about how he provoke violence, to justify murders. And, THEY went to great length to manufacture confirming evidence, for each individual shooting.
It actually pisses me off this underage charge was ever allow by the court in the beginning. This truth absolutely should have been established two fricking weeks ago, before it was allowed to be used to falsely bias the jury. The harm was done a long time before the trail was even started, by the media claim it was illegal for Rittenhouse to be carry this weapon.
If we look back on this thread, how many of us started out calling out Rittenhouse for being 17 with an AR......... before we added any other comments about the shooting. Almost all of us started with that premise. It was, for God’s sake, the primary focus, of even those who believed he shot 3 people in self defense.
This entire case should be thrown out, without prejudice, for that fact alone. How can a State allow a State’s D.A. to prejudice a case before it even starts and not throw it out on that basis alone? It’s utter insanity. And it’s equally insane that they let the DA bias the jury for 2 weeks and then throw out the very platform the rest of the case was built upon.
I can’t find anywhere the Judge told the jury they could convict him on new, lesser charges, as the media claimed he said he might do. That certainly seems wrong to do at the end of a trial too. It seems to say, we couldn’t convict him on the original charges, would you consider convicting him on something else? How is that fair or even legal, after the fact.
Still, I don’t trust what comes out these kinds of trials anymore. Hell, most attorneys freely admit, you never know what a jury will do.
I believe he’s going to get convicted of something and do some time.........BECAUSE that’s what the system wants to happen, at this place in time.
Hope I’m total wrong, because I should be.