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Congrats Kyle! This is the largest Ram taken on public lands in Utah History congrats you earned it! Troy

Even though our little chat has nothing to do with the original post,Let's hummor the MM crowd and have that talk. Here is my Rap Sheet in the 1980's I was cited for one of my trap's not having the correct spacer. I was an 1/8 inch short. In the 1990's I was given a ticket for not having my...

Brad Turner and ethics? Your killing me man! You will always be a Legend in Your Own Mind!!!!!

Nick your argument does not hold water. You state that if the record books did not recognize these animals there would be zero interest in hunting the Island. Nick there is not a record book ram on that Island and I am not 100% sure if B&C even recognizes animals taken off it. You also state...

LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-13 AT 12:28PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-13 AT 12:14?PM (MST) Russ you are 100% correct I am bias, but not for the reason you think I am. I grew up hunting the Island with my father and because of that I have always had a passion for the place. One of the missions of...

LAST EDITED ON Jan-31-13 AT 04:28PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jan-31-13 AT 04:17?PM (MST) Don't let Nick get under your skin he has a Beef with Auction Tags & SFW and it does not matter what you say you wont change his mind! Thank goodness that we live in a Country that grants us the right and...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-12 AT 10:57AM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-12 AT 10:49?AM (MST) All Here are some more facts that may help shed some light on the question as to why Conservation permit was allowed to be used. 1- The Utah Legislature ruled they did not want the State Agencies to acquire...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-27-12 AT 10:12AM (MST)[p]Travis I am not sure on the sale and income generated from these property's. I will check. I do know they are listed on SFW's website. Like I stated before there are others (Byron & Jim) that have far more knowledge of these Property's than me. Not...

Travis In answer to your question yes property's has been purchased with Conservation permit Money that SFW holds title too. This has been brought up before and for specific details I would refer you to Byron Bateman & Jim Karpowitz. There are restrictions on the property's acquired by...

Travis not exactly sure what you are refrencing to? Just come right out and ask it. If I dont have the answer I will try and find it. X-treme Troy Justensen

Michael You better throw a harder punch I am still standing. I guess I haven't been beat enough yet. And I guess the hat dont fit! By the way I prefer Resitol 7 5/8 white,shaped like Tom Horn's! I am not fighting for my job. I made a living prior to this job and I am more than capable of...

Zim I took your advice and went back and read the North American Model. It does not change the way I feel or how I will move forward. I do not need a statement or saying to define who I am or what I stand for! If you require such, more power to you. Randy I have already read through the...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-26-12 AT 00:20AM (MST)[p]Pretty interesting that a DWR Director would take the time to get on a public forum like MM. Jim I appreciate your time and guts to subject yourself to such abuse! I guess you have not learned from the rest of us. I have taken the time to read all of...

LAST EDITED ON May-18-12 AT 10:57AM (MST)[p]We differ on the opinion but that is fine. Concerning Sheep SFW recomends that the Table or Percentage reflects the current # of tags being issued. I believe the way that Karl Hirst had it figured out it was right around 13%. SFW has no problem with...

LAST EDITED ON May-17-12 AT 05:21PM (MST)[p]Landon I believe only 13 of the permits in that time frame are auction permits the others are drawn for but you have to be using the services of an outfitter in order to apply! This equates to money in order to play and does nothing for the resource...

I attended the Northern Rac last night. It was very poorly attend like most of the other RAC's. Micheal Christensen was there Ryan Foutz was present representing UTFNAWS. Myself and Byron Bateman representing SFW were present also. Before I get into last night I would like to address a few...

LAST EDITED ON May-14-12 AT 10:41PM (MST)[p]The Central Rac is Tuesday May 15th and the Northern Rac is Wednesday May 16th. Rather than coming on MM to find out the facts I think one would be better served to attend the Rac and ask the question directly to the individual giving the presentation...

Good point Russ! But you need to take into consideration the fact that I have not always been on the payroll! Spent sevral years as a volunteer. Did not get involved with the idea that some day it would be the way I support my family. And you are not aware of what I give beyond what I get paid...

Morning Ken! No I dont believe the tags have gotten out of control in Utah. There is a system in place that controls that number. I recently spoke with one of the DWR Biologist. I will not use his name because I have not ask him if I could but his statement speaks volumes. "With out the...

Ken Have you ever attended a RAC meeting here in Utah? Are you familiar with the process. Do you know how many people sit on each Rac and who they represent? Or are you basing you comments on what you have read on the internet! Here is some info that might be helpful to you.There are 5 RAC's...

Ken I do not know the number of NR tags available in 1996 off the top of my head. This years numbers are currently going through the RAC process and have not been set. Permits will flucuate from year to year based on the health of the herd! To put the blame soley on the Conservation Permit...

LAST EDITED ON Apr-17-12 AT 09:02AM (MST)[p]Ken If I understand correctly you have been putting in for the Pausaugunt. Draw results will not be posted until the end of May the Wildlife Board has not met yet to approve permit numbers. A few years back the application period was kicked back a...

If in fact this works future releases would not encure the same high cost for the simple fact that I dont think it will be as important to collar and spend the time conducting the study. Obviously the range is most important and if we cant come up with another solution the deer will have to be...

I beleive to have Tony Abbott as the moderator would be a mistake. The reason being I feel the Moderator has to be able to ask the hard question and still be far enough removed that personal bias does not influence the debate! I have no problem with Tony attending or even submitting questions...

No problem Travis I have always respected you for that! X-treme Troy Justensen

Buzz you kill me man! Texas was sited simple because that is were this particular study took place!

Travis I am not sure exactly what you mean when you ask what is SFW's position on this issue. If the intent is to see if SFW supports to amend the rule, Yes we do! Though people will disagree SFW's position is to put the resouce first. The big picture is to increase/maintain abundant wildlife...

Travis I see no reason that the rule could not be amended to address an issue like what is happening with the moose. Both you and I know the DWR administer this program and they are the ones that set the numbers. While making this post Byron imfomed me that the DWR and the Consrvation Groups...

Mike Oregons laws are differnt than Utah's, Raffles are not legal in the State. Yes there are ways to raise more money but the current system is designed to do more than that. For instance the reason for making people apply in person is too bring people to Utah. In a few months the UofU will...

Glen I dont know who you have talked to or have gotten your facts from but apparently you have been given some miss information. Susan & Pete have never been paid by SFW Utah nor have they ever been hired by SFW Utah! You are welcome to come and check the books to see for yourself. SFW Utah...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-03-11 AT 07:43AM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jun-03-11 AT 07:41?AM (MST) Jason, SFW agreed in the meeting to post the odds, but added because we have a partner in the Expo SFW would have to get the approval of MDF first. This is exactly what Ryan Foutz stated. Ryan is the one...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-01-11 AT 02:55PM (MST)[p]Jason, In the prior post you stated "I was surprised to hear you say that you were "given bad information" on this issue. This is not correct and is not what I said. I have no problem with your latest post where you state. "With all due respect...

Jason, I have read your post and there are a couple of things that are not correct. First I never stated that I was given "Bad Information" What I did say is that if I was given bad information or learned that I was wrong I was a big enough boy to stand up and admit it. Second I am not an...

Nick Still here Brother! Have not had time to surf the web, had to move some family from Las Cruces NM to S.T George and finish up our banquet season. I still stand by what I was told. I was not in the meeting between MDF & SFW so all I can do is speak to what I with several others were told...

Brian I had posted an accounting of the Funds that SFW had spent from 2008 to present day that were Non- Conservation Permit Money's, meaning money raised from the Expo and banquets etc. Unfortunatley the post was deleted. When I get more time I will repost that accounting. Or if you now...

Tye I stand corrected on Mr. Kings employment with the DWR. I misunderstood when I was told that he worked with the Division while writting the management plan for Bighorn Sheep and also his work on the Mule deer study. My Bad thanks for the clarification! Pretty impressive resume. Bill I...

Bill You did'nt answer my questions! Look at Board Memmbers past and present and tell me who John does not stack up against? Are there peole more qualifed than Bair? Of course there is. The old adage applies here as well "No matter how good you think you are there is always someone better"...

Bowhunt John does not fall into any of these category's. That is refering to the people and who they represent on the nominating committee. I have had the opportunity to read through John's resume. It is pretty impressive. Bair has served on the Central Rac for 8 years he has also severed on...

LAST EDITED ON May-05-11 AT 09:39AM (MST)[p]For those of you that might not beaware of the process here is how it works. Anyone can submit thier name along with a resume to the nominating committee. The nominating committee is made up of 11 indivuduals 3- Agriculture & Live Stock 2- Non...

Robb Unreal experience for sure. Some of the hunts I was not the guide but rather the cameraman/camp grunt! I didnt mind, it allowed me to experience something that will never be within my reach! I will say one thing, it is a little unnerving to be chasing around big bears with a sharp stick...