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    Transfer a 5B Late to a Youth Hunter??

    Just my 2 cents: I doubt you will have to take a shot over 200yds. I wouldn't stress the kid out trying to practice on 300+ range targets. That more for us stupid adults trying to show off. A 10yo should be fine with just about any/all hiking in that unit (assuming he isn't a couch potato...
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    Draw Results are up

    27 Archery Bull Sept.
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    First African Hunt advise please

    Everything is negotiable most places on this planet. Don't be afraid to email and ask. Someone, somewhere probably has a cancellation or vacancy needing to be filled. That said, winning an auction is probably going to be the easiest way to get your initial costs down. Do a larger group, that's...
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    Should I get Travel Health Insurance for South Africa?

    Thanks. Late 50s and early/late 60s on our first time to SAfrica. The few policies I had looked up seemed to exclude extreme sports and safaris. Should be a tame trip but when you are getting up there in years even rolling out of bed can be dangerous ;) Just don't want anyone stranded.
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    Should I get Travel Health Insurance for South Africa?

    Anyone recommend taking out travel health insurance for South Africa? Did you use it or wish you had bought it? Any recommended suppliers?
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    First bow for my toddler

    Forgot to add. I also used that bow for my son with special needs son (he is a lefty). He still shoots a recurve (switched to an adult 35lb recurve around age 16) with us at 3D shoots. We let him shoot several arrows until he hits the target and the folks putting those on usually let him shoot...
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    First bow for my toddler

    My kids grew up watching me shoot while camping (didn't allow them outside while I was shooting in back yard). Toddlers had one of them $20 Walmart fiberglass bows that can go left/right and all started by around age 3 including my daughter. By age 5 my daughter was out shooting her 3 & 7 yo...
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    Sunrise Shoot 2021

    Anyone know if they fixed all there problems (who runs it, prices, new targets, vendors, etc). My son is trying to talk me into going back this year but the 2018 & especially 2019 were so terrible I swore I would not go back again.
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    Credit Card Hits

    LOL You all sound naive. My non-hunter wife would never give back a Trophy Elk tag. She'd make me buy her a fancy new rifle, teach her to shoot, work harder than ever to get her a shot at a big one very close to the road and warm truck. Yes all before I could even think about filling my tag...
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    Submitted app not showing?

    I still can't see anything on the portals for any of my families 6 separate apps. On the draw page, if I go to the purchase point guard link, I do see the elk apps for the ones where I didn't already buy point guard. In the accounts I did buy point guard, I get a message that I may have already...
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    New Online Application issues

    Update again: Despite what the G&F lady on the phone indicated, my daughters portal also showed no application (hers was the other one I forgot to add the optional email too). I just went back into the tool and resubmitted AND it let me. So either there are two apps (which supposedly cannot...
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    New Online Application issues

    Update: finally got through to a person at G&F. Despite being an online app, it takes a day or so for the online app to show up on your portal. Saturday apps finally showed up this Mon afternoon. Had to go create a portal for the kids who didn't have one to verify theirs. Still can't see the...
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    New Online Application issues

    I did notice today that I can now see the apps for one of my sons and my wife are "pending" in their portal account. Nothing showing on mine. Think I'll try re-applying and chase down the refund for the prior error after. Took forever to get passed the busy signal on the phone and now sitting...
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    New Online Application issues

    Oh and I forgot to add: For the first few where I remembered to enter my (optional) email on the billing page, I have a receipt. For the others, I did not get an email but if I want to update the credit card I need the order number from that email to do it. <I was looking to use that method as a...
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    New Online Application issues

    Anyone have issues with the new online application tools? The receipts no longer show detail about what you submitted i.e. no way to confirm from the receipt what I applied for. I like have the prior format where I had confirmation of what I submitted in case of errors during the draw process...
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    Your feeling on the proposed changes to the trail camera rules in Arizona?

    I agree individuals don't need/want more regulations. But I do believe there is a case to be made to regulate businesses. Clearly the goal that I believe many would like is to keep hunting a sport. Regulations can help keep it that way by not allowing it to be driven by business profits. Seems...
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    Bear Wallow Wilderness vs Blue Range Primative

    For Mulies, the Blue. Easier to spend a few days bivy than to climb out everyday. Can be a challenge with the rain/flooding. Good glass and spotting scope will save you some hiking. Many places take climbing on all fours to get out of if you get off the trails. It will be memorable regardless...
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    Kaibab 12A Archery Road Conditions

    My son has a 12A Archery tag and I'll be taking him up over labor day with a few extra days added on ahead of the weekend. I haven't been up on the Kaibab in 20yrs and don't recall what the roads are like during the archery/monsoon season. It seemed like back then just about any road I used was...
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    Advice on Hunting the Pines in AZ

    Novel idea.
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    Advice on Hunting the Pines in AZ

    I grew up hunting Muleys in wide open country. Spot and stalk, long range shooting, etc. I need some advice on how to hunt Muleys in the trees; dense Ponderosa forest. I have lots of elk hunting experience in trees but I don't generally see muley bucks during those hunts (pockets of does yes but...
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    CC are getting hit.....

    One Jr tag hit over the wkd (out of three jr apps). Never got the email to update cc info this year. Never could see or update the info for the two paper apps G&F submitted after the computer errors they had although they did say they would have to call for a cc if/when they drew.
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    AZ Online App hosed again

    So here's the latest. Despite having 6 receipts showing I had successfully entered all 6 apps, I get a call from G&F Tues around 6pm in response to my email on the errors. They are able to see 4 of the apps did go thru (including mine which had the billing errors) and 2 that didn't (despite them...
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    AZ Online App hosed again

    System got better the later it got. By 10pm the last one went through with only a few having to hit the back button once to retry on error. I did notice that the primary hang was when the tool did the search for the hunt license #. I would hit the continue repeatedly and usually after the third...
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    AZ Online App hosed again

    Yeah. I wasn't worried about over charges just missing the deadline. Started trying my son's app from a different computer and now the errors are before I even get to the CC entry. It died a few times just hitting the apply button this time. When it did get past that, it didn't even populate the...
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    AZ Online App hosed again

    Seems I keep getting transaction errors after I hit the authorize button at the very end. Interestingly, Cabela's Visa show the $13 app fee approved on their end (more than once now)but the tool reports an error and can't find my app. Same error on Chrome and IE10 browsers. Going to try a...
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    Unit 27 Cell Coverage

    I have AT&T and get coverage in several paved areas though didn't pay attention to exactly where though it seemed anywhere near homes like Fs26 intersection and around Hannagans. You definitely get coverage at and above alpine. I even get coverage in Williams valley and 403 road. if I recall the...
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    AZ Draw Website problems

    It worked fine again by 10am Just caused a delay in my vacation day festivities but did worry me for an hour there that my kids apps might not make it.
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    Problems applying on AZ web site today

    Anyone else getting timed out today applying for AZ deer? Been having problems since a little after 9am today.
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    AZ Draw Website problems

    Got one of my apps in this morning before 9am just fine. No problems with web for a good hour there around 8am. Now I can't get my kids apps in. Keeps timing out on me.
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    WTH?

    They are up.
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    AZ ELK/LOPE Results

    Came up for me at 1:25p local time U27 Archery Bull U3a/3c Jr Cow for two of my kids.
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    WTH?

    Hmm. I hit refresh about every 15min and I never saw that screen. Definitely not seeing any results yet either. Wonder if you just somehow caught a very short online "test" window of if you still see that? (few years back some of us got in around noon but they quickly shut it down and then...
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    WTH?

    Well we just passed 10am Tues and nothing yet :) You would think that a few wise politicians (I know that's an oxymoron) and the business that buy their elections would see the value in providing updated information as its known. Lots of money starts flowing the day we know where we are going...
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    Meat Donation ideas

    We have 3 tags coming with pretty good odds of filling at least 2 (jr cow) if not all 3. We generally eat about 1 elk a year so I expect to have some left overs. And if we get NM tags too, we'll definitely be feeding a lot of others. I am looking for charities (the kind that feed people who...
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    How young is to young

    I started taking my kids at 5yrs old including my special needs kids (now that's work). Before that took my God-children from about age 10. A lot depends on the hunt and your preparation. If you know where you are going and how to hunt it. The kid is not a problem. I took one son to Wy for...
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    They're hitting cc cards

    My cc lets me see posted AND pending online. Hits were pending last Fri about 5pm. Posted today. My Cabelas card got stolen right before I put in. Those hits usually showed up a week late and even then I had to call in to get pending charges. Got those results usually 1-2 days before the g&f...
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    Credit card hits

    No hits yet. I am already feeling left out of this years hunts; family of 6 but none of us have many points: 2-5. Last year, my credit card hit for my sons tag showed up March 30 (and I am pretty sure my card was not one of the screw ups they had). The charge didn't appear visibly on my...
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    TRAIL CAMS?

    Don't often see many posts comparing plot modes. Could any of you shed some light on that topic? Manual time set for on/off or light senstive? If auto on/off, do they turn on/off at first/last light while dark enough to catch earliest movement? Do the IRs fire for any "night" video in plot...
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    Are electronic sights allowed in AZ?

    I got thru to the Region1 game and fish office on Friday. The guy covering the regs questions was named Taylor. He indicated that as long as you are not projecting a light on game (ala Laser), you could use the electronic sights. He also indicated that they were working on wording in the regs to...
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    Are electronic sights allowed in AZ?

    I wanted to get my son a red dot sight but heard gossip that it may not be allowed for hunting in AZ. I searched the regs but could find no such restriction. Wanted to find out for sure so I could go put a new dot scope on my sons rifle to start practicing now for this fall. Anyone know where I...
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