Was the shot in the rear end a second arrow? Doesn’t look deep enough to have been the only shot to kill the deer.
Maybe that was a follow up shot to try and finish the job???
The dude who shot it in the ass or the dude who found it?That's an incredible Buck, congrats to the hunter!
Story he told me is, the arrow you see was the first shot. The hunter followed it and just couldn't get close enough to finish it off quickly due to the crunchy snow. After seeing the buck he wanted get shot, my friend watched it from across canyon. I don't have a tag nor was I even there.
The question is, did the hunter intentionally try to shoot him up the ass? Because that’s what it looks like and if that’s the case, he absolutely deserves to be thrown under the bus, and he absolutely doesn’t deserve that buck.So you have no details on the circumstances of the first shot? Did the arrow deflect? Did the buck move? Bottom line is it looks like the hunter recovered the buck and did not give up, so why throw him under the bus here?
If you have never had a shot go wrong, then you haven’t hunted long enough. Be careful with karma is my suggestion.
But beyond that, archery is the least lethal for of hunting(yes I bow hunt).
Sounds like someone’s jealous congrats to the hunter nice buck!I had a friend send me some pics last week of a sad scenario on the front. Seems a greedy and disrespectful hunter let it fly on a bad shot opportunity. He told me it took all day for it to expire.
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And along with that attitude often comes a lost animal and a second animal pursued and stuck.Sometimes you just need the get an arrow in it then worry about it after. Awesome buck!!
You've never had a shot go astray? Never? I sure have, glad the deer was recovered, and yes congrats to the hunter.The dude who shot it in the ass or the dude who found it?
Not against the law to keep hunting if you can’t recover an animal.And along with that attitude often comes a lost animal and a second animal pursued and stuck.
Then comes the complaints about how bad the DWR manages our big game.
hunters already complain about our dwr what’s new lol!And along with that attitude often comes a lost animal and a second animal pursued and stuck.
Then comes the complaints about how bad the DWR manages our big game.
After seeing the buck he wanted get shot, my friend watched it from across canyon. I don't have a tag nor was I even there.You've never had a shot go astray? Never? I sure have, glad the deer was recovered, and yes congrats to the hunter.
And some people care more about morals vs what’s legalNot against the law to keep hunting if you can’t recover an animal.
So what was illegal about that situation?And some people care more about morals vs what’s legal
So what was illegal about that situation?
No but you guys are ostracizing this guy for making a poor shot. Glad we all make a poor shot every now and then oh wait I guess ur mr perfect!I don't believe anyone said anything about it being illegal.....
Unfortunately there are " Hunters" and there are "Killers".Jason what are you missing? One dude shot it in the ass and another guy recovered it, good on the dude who recovered it!!! But I sure hope people don’t make it a habit of putting pics like that on the internet,I’m an archery hunter and it offended me, what do you think non hunters or anti hunters think of pics like this?
Ya I know there’s trophy hunters and meat hunters. I just handle the narcissist hunters that take pictures and come home and post crap on the internet.Unfortunately there are " Hunters" and there are "Killers".
People really need to stop caring about what they think. Anything we do is wrong in their eyes. They are never happy and never will be happy.what do you think non hunters or anti hunters think of pics like this?
You sound retarded and extremely unethical.Sometimes you just need the get an arrow in it then worry about it after. Awesome buck!!
Not against the law to keep hunting if you can’t recover an animal.
The only thing unethical here is someone else putting a hunter on blast for killing a buck, legally. No laws were broken and the deer was recovered.
I guess the point of these posts is that if something isn't technically illegal and no laws are broken, it's okay and we all have to support it?Sometimes you just need the get an arrow in it then worry about it after.
I don't know what info you got but the info from the original post does not give any info you posted about the hunter posting the picture or that someone else had recovered the buck.Jason what are you missing? One dude shot it in the ass and another guy recovered it, good on the dude who recovered it!!! But I sure hope people don’t make it a habit of putting pics like that on the internet,I’m an archery hunter and it offended me, what do you think non hunters or anti hunters think of pics like this?
Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’tYou sound retarded and extremely unethical.
I very much disagree with that statement. If you use the right equipment, there isn’t anything more lethal than an arrow in the right spot.
but to each their own.
Story he told me is, the arrow you see was the first shot. The hunter followed it and just couldn't get close enough to finish it off quickly due to the crunchy snow. After seeing the buck he wanted get shot, my friend watched it from across canyon. I don't have a tag nor was I even there.I don't know what info you got but the info from the original post does not give any info you posted about the hunter posting the picture or that someone else had recovered the buck.
The original picture was posted by Elkslayer and Elkslayer said his friend had sent him the pictures and his friend had watched across tge canyon. The second post from Elkslaayer stayed that atleast he recovered it, with that statement i assumed the the huy that had originally shot the buck had recovered it.
Yes I agree the original picture should not have been put on this site. The picture was not from the hunter that shot the deer nor was there any real info on details of the shot.
We do not know if the buck was standing quartering away (alot of guys take that shot) and the buck moved as he shot, I do not consider that as a deliberate shot in the ass.
Obviously no one on this post knows the details of the shot or even the recovery of the buck. If someone does know the details they are diffintly not sharing the details.
Grizz you do not have to support the situation, but if it is technically legal and no laws are broken it is OK.
Stop making assumptions.
Good for the hunter. Great buck.
Maybe Utah doesn’t have hunter education courses?? The bow hunter education course I took here in Wyoming said “it’s unethical to try to shoot a deer up the ass”. I forget what page of what book. You look it up. Or you could just use common sense and have a little respect for the animals we hunt, and the hunters who enjoy hunting them.Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’t
So from that story. Details of the hunt.Story he told me is, the arrow you see was the first shot. The hunter followed it and just couldn't get close enough to finish it off quickly due to the crunchy snow. After seeing the buck he wanted get shot, my friend watched it from across canyon. I don't have a tag nor was I even there.
Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’t
Sounds goodSo from that story. Details of the hunt.
Was the shot meant for the ass or a unfortunate circumstance happen?
Who posted the picture?
Who recovered the buck?
I just do not read any details and I read alot of assumptions.
Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’t
Elkslayer, clear this up for us, who recovered the deer, your buddy? Or the guy that shot it?
That’s what I suspected. Ethics aren’t laws.Maybe Utah doesn’t have hunter education courses?? The bow hunter education course I took here in Wyoming said “it’s unethical to try to shoot a deer up the ass”. I forget what page of what book. You look it up. Or you could just use common sense and have a little respect for the animals we hunt, and the hunters who enjoy hunting them.
Not sure if you're responding to me, but I made no comment whatsoever regarding this specific buck. Only referring to the posts I quoted referring to just getting an arrow in an animal and then worrying about it, keep killing until you recover, and that if it's legal then it must be okay.Wanting to make sure I'm following this story correctly, since everyone is in the know.
1. Hunter was/is unethical
2. Deer deliberately shot in the butt
3. Took all day for the deer to die and be recovered
4. The one who shot and one who recovered were two separate people
5. We're all dumb *$$'$ for making assumptions and throwing guilt before facts
Did I miss anything?
Wrong. It would technically be legal to shoot an otherwise healthy deer with a horn caught in a fence or one that fell through the ice and was swimming and then tag the animals, but I DO NOT have to agree that would be fair chase hunting and that it's ethical and okay. A person can have their opinion and shoot those deer and won't get a ticket, but I have every right to be critical of that decision. Ethics and opinions go both ways.Grizz you do not have to support the situation, but if it is technically legal and no laws are broken it is OK.
How about the fact that an ethics course is required for the Extended Archery hunt. Obviously DWR considers ethics an important part of hunting.Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’t
^This^@grizzly Didn't have anyone specific in mind. Was just pointing out the silliness this thread has turned into. No one posting knows the details from the hunter, yet we already have some great judgments and stories evolving.
Today marked my 25 deer opener that I’ve participated in, here in Utah. I am shocked by the amount of inconsiderate, entitled people that are out on our public land hunting these days. And the really bad part is, most of them have kids with them and are showing them that it’s ok to act this way towards other hunters. There was a number of things I witnessed today, one of which a guy who had been on the mountain since last night, bedded a buck and began his stalk. Another guy saw this taking place and RAN down hill as fast as he could to cut the other guy off, completely blowing opportunities for either hunter. I visited with the kid who was the first hunter to begin the stalk and he asked if this type of behavior was normal for that area. I said it didn’t use to be, but it’s getting more common. I’d be shocked if the kid was older than 18. The other dude was at least 40 from what I could tell through glass. And this deer was by no means “worth it”. It was a damn 18” 3x3. I saw a few other things take place that all I could really say was ‘wow’. I get we all wanna be heroes and fill our tags, but come on. I know it’s opening day, but that excuse doesn’t fly when this stuff is taking place. This is blatant disrespect and douchery. 10 years ago, I never saw any of this stuff. Now it’s an everyday occurrence.Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’t
What’s odd, is that apparently there are a few more people than I originally suspected, who are ok with taking ridiculous shots at animals with the attitude of “let’s see what happens and if I can’t find it I’ll shoot another one.” The same type of guy who takes 100 yard shots with their bow, or try shooting them up the ass. (Sounds like you deerkiller) I’d be willing to bet the guys with that attitude either didn’t have a dad, (which would really be a shame) or their dad didn’t teach them what they ought to have. Hopefully guys like that don’t reproduce.That’s what I suspected. Ethics aren’t laws.
it’s odd that more people are concerned with following their own personal ethics than following the laws.
Just making sure I didn’t miss anything.
The guy that shot it recovered it. The guy that took the pics didn't have a good opportunity to go after it, so he sat back and watched it instead of making a bad situation worse.
And? You learned how to quote posts from other pages? Notice how I didn’t use the word ‘ethics’ or ‘ethical’ anywhere in that post? The stuff I was talking about could actually be defined as “breaking the law” if you were to look at if from a hunter harassment perspective, based upon what I witnessed that day. Not hunter ‘ethics’Today marked my 25 deer opener that I’ve participated in, here in Utah. I am shocked by the amount of inconsiderate, entitled people that are out on our public land hunting these days. And the really bad part is, most of them have kids with them and are showing them that it’s ok to act this way towards other hunters. There was a number of things I witnessed today, one of which a guy who had been on the mountain since last night, bedded a buck and began his stalk. Another guy saw this taking place and RAN down hill as fast as he could to cut the other guy off, completely blowing opportunities for either hunter. I visited with the kid who was the first hunter to begin the stalk and he asked if this type of behavior was normal for that area. I said it didn’t use to be, but it’s getting more common. I’d be shocked if the kid was older than 18. The other dude was at least 40 from what I could tell through glass. And this deer was by no means “worth it”. It was a damn 18” 3x3. I saw a few other things take place that all I could really say was ‘wow’. I get we all wanna be heroes and fill our tags, but come on. I know it’s opening day, but that excuse doesn’t fly when this stuff is taking place. This is blatant disrespect and douchery. 10 years ago, I never saw any of this stuff. Now it’s an everyday occurrence.
anyways, rant over. It was good to get back out in the hills. It’s been a long summer! Hope everyone has an enjoyable day without too much bullchit to deal with from other hunters.
blowing a guys stalk is illegal ? No it’s unethical but you can call it what you want
Grizz you do not have to support the situation, but if it is technically legal and no laws are broken it is OK.
Grizz I agree with you 110 percent.Not sure if you're responding to me, but I made no comment whatsoever regarding this specific buck. Only referring to the posts I quoted referring to just getting an arrow in an animal and then worrying about it, keep killing until you recover, and that if it's legal then it must be okay.
Wrong. It would technically be legal to shoot an otherwise healthy deer with a horn caught in a fence or one that fell through the ice and was swimming and then tag the animals, but I DO NOT have to agree that would be fair chase hunting and that it's ethical and okay. A person can have their opinion and shoot those deer and won't get a ticket, but I have every right to be critical of that decision. Ethics and opinions go both ways.
It's not illegal to take pot shots at animals far outside my abilities, but I don't do it. Some people consider baiting okay, but most western states have deemed it unethical and illegal. We all know some outfitters that hunt nearly exclusively over bait, but I don't see anywhere on their websites about that being the experience. The fact that I've never seen an article in Epic or HF with the trophy sitting next to a pile of Granny Smith's shows me even people who do it aren't proud of it.
??Grizz I agree with you 110 percent.
It is your right to comment on the ethics of the hunt and nothing wrong with commenting if we all know the full circumstances. But in this case it is still not clear if this hunter was unethical, no clear information on the shot.
I was hunting with a friend a few years back he had a good quartering away shot on a spike bull as he realesed his arrow the bull turned slightly and my friend hit the bull just a couple inches to the side of the bum hole. The arrow went in and hit the Femoral Artery the bull spun a full circle and fell down dead.
Was it unethical for taken a quartering away shot, maybe for some but I know most pepole will take that shot especially if it is fairly close.
In my opinion the unethical part of this story is the fact some pictures got posted by one person that had no buisness posting of another person.
That’s %100 accurateAs long as the hunter was able to post pictures of his buck on Instagram that’s all that matters.
Now we see why your friend is so pissed, the guy shot the same buck he was after. Makes sense now.After seeing the buck he wanted get shot, my friend watched it from across canyon. I don't have a tag nor was I even there.
As far as we know the hunter hasn't posted anything about the buck on social media, Is all we have is a brief description from another disgruntled hunters friend. And the photos he posted to make the guy look bad.As long as the hunter was able to post pictures of his buck on Instagram that’s all that matters.
Started from you basically ?That’s a badass deer!!! Glad to finally hear the real story versus a mumbled up version that read a lot different than what happened.
Says the guy who basically admitted that he’d shoot another buck if he lost his first one!! Good luckStarted from you basically ?
Yea I’ve always been so jealous that I haven’t had a pic of one of my bad shots put on the internet for all to seeCongrats Dr_Hunter on an awesome buck and thanks for sharing the actual details of the hunt. Sounds like you worked hard for the buck and even with a shot that went bad (it has happened or will happen to all of us), you stuck with it and got the buck.
As for the rest of the garbage posts in this thread, they were just as I suspected. Very little truth and detail and a whole lot of jealousy. That is never a good combo!
Nope different person read thru the thread pal lmaoSays the guy who basically admitted that he’d shoot another buck if he lost his first one!! Good luck
So you are admitting to posting some of the garbage posts. good to see you admitting when you are wrong.Yea I’ve always been so jealous that I haven’t had a pic of one of my bad shots put on the internet for all to see
Maybe I got you mixed up with deerkiller, you guys seem to have a lot in commonNope different person read thru the thread pal lmao
I admitted that the first guys story was a lot different than the guy who actually shot the deer, if your cool with having pics of you making a bad shot posted for everyone to see, get with elk slayer, he will take care of it for ya?So you are admitting to posting some of the garbage posts. good to see you admitting when you are wrong.
Yup we both think ur a narcissist I guess ?Maybe I got you mixed up with deerkiller, you guys seem to have a lot in common
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