"Lost Rhoades Mines"
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eelgrass
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I don't know much about the Rhoades Mines, but if Rutnbuck wants to look, count me in!
I did find out long ago that looking for love in a honky-tonk tavern is like looking for the Dutchman Mine!
Is that similar to the Rhoades mines???? I'm really good at looking!
Eel
I did find out long ago that looking for love in a honky-tonk tavern is like looking for the Dutchman Mine!
Is that similar to the Rhoades mines???? I'm really good at looking!
Eel
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It kinda sounds too me like 3K knows a little something about this treasure, she's really beating around the bush.
I know it's not a "legend", it's very very true. I also know some cool stuff about it's approximate location. I have seen and held some very cool spanish artifacts found up above Duchesne.
Would two swords (one still in it's scabbord), two spurs (one with four small gold inlayed bars on it's outside side)and a spanish helmet excite you enough to spill your gut's on what you know, Jenny Poo?
I also know where a spanish "arista" is down on the Henry Mountains. Ever heard of "The Lost Josephine Mine"?
The old waybill says its on the "north face of a middle mountain". Hmmmmm, that's just about right where i found the arista.
Skull Krazy
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I know it's not a "legend", it's very very true. I also know some cool stuff about it's approximate location. I have seen and held some very cool spanish artifacts found up above Duchesne.
Would two swords (one still in it's scabbord), two spurs (one with four small gold inlayed bars on it's outside side)and a spanish helmet excite you enough to spill your gut's on what you know, Jenny Poo?
I also know where a spanish "arista" is down on the Henry Mountains. Ever heard of "The Lost Josephine Mine"?
The old waybill says its on the "north face of a middle mountain". Hmmmmm, that's just about right where i found the arista.
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
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slamdunk!!!
SHE AIN'T BULLSHIPPING YOU ONE BIT!!!
A FEW PEOPLE HAVE FOUND IT!!!
THEY'VE ALL DIED!!!
YA!!!
THE SPANIARDS COVERED EVERY SQUARE INCH OF WHERE WE LIVE!!!
THE TOOK WHAT WAS EASY TO GET!!!
THEY ALSO HAD BATTLES WITH THE INDIANS!!!
FOUND SOME ODD STUFF HERE ON THE SLOPE OVER THE YEARS BUT NO GOLD!!!
EVERY YEAR WHILE HUNTING I FIND MORE PLACES WHERE THEY WERE LOOKING/DIGGING!!!
OTHER THAN SOME SPANISH CACHES & SOME HIDDEN GOLD BARS I DO BELIEVE YOU HAVE YOUR WORK CUT OUT FOR YOU!!!
IF THE UTE TRIBE CATCHES YOU SCRATCHING AROUND ON THEIR GROUND THEY'LL CUT YOUR PECKER OFF!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
SHE AIN'T BULLSHIPPING YOU ONE BIT!!!
A FEW PEOPLE HAVE FOUND IT!!!
THEY'VE ALL DIED!!!
YA!!!
THE SPANIARDS COVERED EVERY SQUARE INCH OF WHERE WE LIVE!!!
THE TOOK WHAT WAS EASY TO GET!!!
THEY ALSO HAD BATTLES WITH THE INDIANS!!!
FOUND SOME ODD STUFF HERE ON THE SLOPE OVER THE YEARS BUT NO GOLD!!!
EVERY YEAR WHILE HUNTING I FIND MORE PLACES WHERE THEY WERE LOOKING/DIGGING!!!
OTHER THAN SOME SPANISH CACHES & SOME HIDDEN GOLD BARS I DO BELIEVE YOU HAVE YOUR WORK CUT OUT FOR YOU!!!
IF THE UTE TRIBE CATCHES YOU SCRATCHING AROUND ON THEIR GROUND THEY'LL CUT YOUR PECKER OFF!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
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RE: slamdunk!!!
"IF THE UTE TRIBE CATCHES YOU SCRATCHING AROUND ON THEIR GROUND THEY'LL CUT YOUR PECKER OFF!!!"
What have ye to say about that .... young tripleK???
RUS
"IF THE UTE TRIBE CATCHES YOU SCRATCHING AROUND ON THEIR GROUND THEY'LL CUT YOUR PECKER OFF!!!"
What have ye to say about that .... young tripleK???
RUS
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Huntnfever
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wow bessy is alive here i thought someone got him in there crosshairs....
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ClorideRUS
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?Lost Rhodes Mines my arse? I had a sit down with a local prophet a while back and he told me the location of Montezuma?s gold. The prophet took one last drag on the bong & was translated up. I have the map!
Send me $500.00 and a postage prepaid envelope and I'll send you the GPS coordinates, I promise!!!!
RUS
Send me $500.00 and a postage prepaid envelope and I'll send you the GPS coordinates, I promise!!!!
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A freind of mine spent ALOT of time looking, he was perty stealthy when he was in there looking.
Last time I talked to him, he said he'd figgert out where it was.
Next thing I knew, he was dead. Just took sick, went in the horsepiddle, they couldn't figger it out, he died!
Last time I talked to him, he said he'd figgert out where it was.
Next thing I knew, he was dead. Just took sick, went in the horsepiddle, they couldn't figger it out, he died!
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So what the story behind these lost mines? I've never heard of them.
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Chester-
here's a little "run down" on these mines.
Way way back when the spaniards came to explore america, they found lot's of gold here and in Colorado. The used the indians as slaves to mine the gold for years and years right here in Utah. The indians finaly got tired of it and overtook the spaniards in an ambush and drove them out, only to leave a LOT of gold behind. the indians cursed it and made it sacred.
Then.....when the Mormon's came, they needed gold for their monetary system aside from government money. So they made some kind of deal with the Utes and were allowed so much gold for their needs, but only one man was to be trusted...his last name was "Rhoades"....hence "The lost Rhoades mines".
Well....no one really knows where the gold is burried but they say the indianss do and it is on their ground up in the Uinta mountains. people have looked high & low for this treasure and a few have died.
There's more to the story...a LOT more, but that's the skinny.
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
here's a little "run down" on these mines.
Way way back when the spaniards came to explore america, they found lot's of gold here and in Colorado. The used the indians as slaves to mine the gold for years and years right here in Utah. The indians finaly got tired of it and overtook the spaniards in an ambush and drove them out, only to leave a LOT of gold behind. the indians cursed it and made it sacred.
Then.....when the Mormon's came, they needed gold for their monetary system aside from government money. So they made some kind of deal with the Utes and were allowed so much gold for their needs, but only one man was to be trusted...his last name was "Rhoades"....hence "The lost Rhoades mines".
Well....no one really knows where the gold is burried but they say the indianss do and it is on their ground up in the Uinta mountains. people have looked high & low for this treasure and a few have died.
There's more to the story...a LOT more, but that's the skinny.
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
Well...Roy can tell us quite a bit, but I'll give you the short version.
The Mormons had nothing when they entered the Salt Lake Valley. They were really, really poor, but they needed gold to build the Salt Lake Temple. Brigham Young had a vision of this gold mine that was located in what is now Uintah county, Utah. "Mormon historians suggest that the mines are repositories of the weatlh of the Lamanites referred to in the Book of Mormon." (Mormons revere Native Americans and believe them to be their long lost brethern....descendants of an ancient people who fled Jerusalem before the birth of Jesus Christ...read the Book of Mormon for more history on that..that's what it's all about)
Anyway...The Spanish had mined this gold and the local Ute indians weren't too fond of them and they weren't too fond of the Mormons asking for the gold either, but they relented, and made those who would be mining the gold take a blood oath not to reveal the location of the mine. Thomas Rhoades was the miner who took the oath.
Rhoades mined the gold the Mormons needed, taking out 60 lbs at a time. (There is alot of gold in the Salt Lake Temple...the angel Moroni statue on top of the temple is made of that gold). The Ute Indians are/were the guardians of the mine and there are people who swear those Utes are STILL guarding it today. Whether they be live indians or spirits...the mine is guarded.
And those who have who have found the gold have ended up dead. Some were massacared by Indians, others took mysteriously ill and died.
Here is an account of what is in the mine....
"To this day, no one knows exactly where the fabled mines of Carre-Shinob lie, but according to the personal statement of Kerry Ross Boren, a distant relative to Chief Walker (Chief Wakara), he has become the current custodian of the Carre-Shinob mines: (Carre Shinob means "there dwells the Great Spirit)
"Knowing that I could walk right to the sacred mine of Carre-Shinob, instead I approached the Elders of the Ute Tribe by way of family inter-marriage with the Reeds. After a great deal of deliberation and discussion, I entered into the same blood-oath that my 3rd great grandfather and both Thomas and Caleb Rhoades swore to. Upon that promise never to reveal the location of Carre-Shinob, never to return there, and not to remove or disturb anything - I entered into one of the most fabulous and probably richest mines in the world. My time spent in Carre-Shinob consisted of 6 hours - not enough but certainly more than enough to change my life forever. While hundreds of people have searched for the Rhoades Mines and the rumored fabulous wealth that the Utes and the Uintah Mountains keep secret, I can honestly say that it does exist. Within the caverns of Carre-Shinob reposes the semi-mummified bodies of great Utes such as Old Chief Sanpete and Chief Wakara, as well as many others. It is an eerie feeling when your flashlight goes out momentarily and you feel the walls come alive - as though all of those Great Ones were watching every move you make. Carre-Shinob is composed of a series of caverns with connecting tunnels formed through a series of active volcanoes, thereby forming lava-tubes that honeycomb the Uintah range.
"My own eyewitness to the astounding secrets that Carre-Shinob revealed sounds to the laymen to be too fantastic to be true. However, the Sun Chamber (as I dubbed it) was an Aztec Temple. In the center of this immense room were nine great stone pillars, too large in circumference for a man to encircle his arms. This entire chamber - walls, ceiling, floor, and pillars - were plated with what appeared to be pure gold! In fact, as I have since thought, it might not have been plated with gold so much as the interior was solid natural gold, from which the center had been excavated, leaving a certain amount of thickness around the exterior walls. If so, the amount of gold once filling this chamber staggers the imagination. On the other hand, the amount of gold still in this chamber surpasses anything ever yet discovered, enhanced by the additional number of gold artifacts stored therein. For instance, there were two gigantic solar disks, each taller than a man and several inches thick, they were apparently of pure gold and must have weighed tons each. The disks represented the sun, with rays emanating from the center outward, and between the rays were intricate carvings of signs and symbols of a peculiar nature. In the very center of each disk was a carved cross, very much like the Celtic cross of Ireland (or Wales), with ivy vines woven around the design. Furthermore, there were golden masks and statuettes, and many stone boxes filled with treasure of another kind: gold plates with hieroglyphic writing on them! There were smaller stone boxes, too, and these contained an assortment of precious stones - emeralds, rubies, turquoise, sapphires, and strangely, sea shells - and others contained gold bracelets, circlets, rings, earrings, and other ceremonial jewelry. Together with the masks, disks, statuettes and other artifacts, the caverns were a treasure trove like something out of A Thousand and One Arabian Nights."1
The Mormons had nothing when they entered the Salt Lake Valley. They were really, really poor, but they needed gold to build the Salt Lake Temple. Brigham Young had a vision of this gold mine that was located in what is now Uintah county, Utah. "Mormon historians suggest that the mines are repositories of the weatlh of the Lamanites referred to in the Book of Mormon." (Mormons revere Native Americans and believe them to be their long lost brethern....descendants of an ancient people who fled Jerusalem before the birth of Jesus Christ...read the Book of Mormon for more history on that..that's what it's all about)
Anyway...The Spanish had mined this gold and the local Ute indians weren't too fond of them and they weren't too fond of the Mormons asking for the gold either, but they relented, and made those who would be mining the gold take a blood oath not to reveal the location of the mine. Thomas Rhoades was the miner who took the oath.
Rhoades mined the gold the Mormons needed, taking out 60 lbs at a time. (There is alot of gold in the Salt Lake Temple...the angel Moroni statue on top of the temple is made of that gold). The Ute Indians are/were the guardians of the mine and there are people who swear those Utes are STILL guarding it today. Whether they be live indians or spirits...the mine is guarded.
And those who have who have found the gold have ended up dead. Some were massacared by Indians, others took mysteriously ill and died.
Here is an account of what is in the mine....
"To this day, no one knows exactly where the fabled mines of Carre-Shinob lie, but according to the personal statement of Kerry Ross Boren, a distant relative to Chief Walker (Chief Wakara), he has become the current custodian of the Carre-Shinob mines: (Carre Shinob means "there dwells the Great Spirit)
"Knowing that I could walk right to the sacred mine of Carre-Shinob, instead I approached the Elders of the Ute Tribe by way of family inter-marriage with the Reeds. After a great deal of deliberation and discussion, I entered into the same blood-oath that my 3rd great grandfather and both Thomas and Caleb Rhoades swore to. Upon that promise never to reveal the location of Carre-Shinob, never to return there, and not to remove or disturb anything - I entered into one of the most fabulous and probably richest mines in the world. My time spent in Carre-Shinob consisted of 6 hours - not enough but certainly more than enough to change my life forever. While hundreds of people have searched for the Rhoades Mines and the rumored fabulous wealth that the Utes and the Uintah Mountains keep secret, I can honestly say that it does exist. Within the caverns of Carre-Shinob reposes the semi-mummified bodies of great Utes such as Old Chief Sanpete and Chief Wakara, as well as many others. It is an eerie feeling when your flashlight goes out momentarily and you feel the walls come alive - as though all of those Great Ones were watching every move you make. Carre-Shinob is composed of a series of caverns with connecting tunnels formed through a series of active volcanoes, thereby forming lava-tubes that honeycomb the Uintah range.
"My own eyewitness to the astounding secrets that Carre-Shinob revealed sounds to the laymen to be too fantastic to be true. However, the Sun Chamber (as I dubbed it) was an Aztec Temple. In the center of this immense room were nine great stone pillars, too large in circumference for a man to encircle his arms. This entire chamber - walls, ceiling, floor, and pillars - were plated with what appeared to be pure gold! In fact, as I have since thought, it might not have been plated with gold so much as the interior was solid natural gold, from which the center had been excavated, leaving a certain amount of thickness around the exterior walls. If so, the amount of gold once filling this chamber staggers the imagination. On the other hand, the amount of gold still in this chamber surpasses anything ever yet discovered, enhanced by the additional number of gold artifacts stored therein. For instance, there were two gigantic solar disks, each taller than a man and several inches thick, they were apparently of pure gold and must have weighed tons each. The disks represented the sun, with rays emanating from the center outward, and between the rays were intricate carvings of signs and symbols of a peculiar nature. In the very center of each disk was a carved cross, very much like the Celtic cross of Ireland (or Wales), with ivy vines woven around the design. Furthermore, there were golden masks and statuettes, and many stone boxes filled with treasure of another kind: gold plates with hieroglyphic writing on them! There were smaller stone boxes, too, and these contained an assortment of precious stones - emeralds, rubies, turquoise, sapphires, and strangely, sea shells - and others contained gold bracelets, circlets, rings, earrings, and other ceremonial jewelry. Together with the masks, disks, statuettes and other artifacts, the caverns were a treasure trove like something out of A Thousand and One Arabian Nights."1
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It's obviously a mistery,,, but before anyone believes "ANY" of the writings of one Kerry Ross Boren, you may want to look into his past,, such as just recently was released from prison in 2006 after spending 22 years in the big house for Murder.. Had nothing better to do than write "Stories" and made a damn fine profit off of his published work.. Anyways that is a fact,, the stories from this guy,, I doubt it.
Rink
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>It's obviously a mistery,,, but before
>anyone believes "ANY" of the
>writings of one Kerry Ross
>Boren, you may want to
>look into his past,, such
>as just recently was released
>from prison in 2006 after
>spending 22 years in the
>big house for Murder.. Had
>nothing better to do than
>write "Stories" and made a
>damn fine profit off of
>his published work.. Anyways that
>is a fact,, the stories
>from this guy,, I doubt
>it.
>
Yeah, you always have to take stories like his with a grain of salt when it concerns local legends and folklore like this. If he claims it "changed his life" it must not have changed it for the better if he ended up in prison for murder, huh?
I do believe the mine exists, but I'm not sure I believe stories about what's in it. I just added that to my post to add to the mystery and intrigue. You know...building up the legend. lol
>anyone believes "ANY" of the
>writings of one Kerry Ross
>Boren, you may want to
>look into his past,, such
>as just recently was released
>from prison in 2006 after
>spending 22 years in the
>big house for Murder.. Had
>nothing better to do than
>write "Stories" and made a
>damn fine profit off of
>his published work.. Anyways that
>is a fact,, the stories
>from this guy,, I doubt
>it.
>
Yeah, you always have to take stories like his with a grain of salt when it concerns local legends and folklore like this. If he claims it "changed his life" it must not have changed it for the better if he ended up in prison for murder, huh?
I do believe the mine exists, but I'm not sure I believe stories about what's in it. I just added that to my post to add to the mystery and intrigue. You know...building up the legend. lol
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I just googled Mr. Boren.
I didn't realize he was in on the "white salamandar letters" as well.
George Thompson who wrote the sequal or updated version of footprints in the wilderness, called "Faded Footprints" passed away in a bad car accident going either TO or FROM the Uinta's in his search for the lost Rhoades treasure.
Skull Krazy
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I didn't realize he was in on the "white salamandar letters" as well.
George Thompson who wrote the sequal or updated version of footprints in the wilderness, called "Faded Footprints" passed away in a bad car accident going either TO or FROM the Uinta's in his search for the lost Rhoades treasure.
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
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I'll bet Mitt Romney knows where it's at.........
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D13er
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lol, that's just what I was thinking.lol
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Very interesting stuff there. I might be getting transfered to Roosevelt soon. Maybe I will go look for the mines....then again probably not. One thought. I would assume that the mines are in some kind of cavern or cave because a big open pit full of gold could eisily be seen from the air. There is all kinds of nasty bacteria and viruses living in caves. That is one possible explanation for people who found the mines becoming mysteriously ill and dieing.
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DallanC
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Raydon gas.
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Slamdunk,, what I speak is true.. It's all public record about Boren,, Uhhh, I just didn't have to look there, I had other means of knowing, anyways. Boren started his publications on this topic after he was convicted of Murder,, had his significant other market his work and made a fine profit..
As for the legend,, I've been in the area, there are some "Signs" that make ya wonder, the Eagle in the rock face, and some other peculiar marks in the hills,, but I was escorted off the Native land when I was 17 while Bow hunting,, I think I was cut a break because of my age and "Willingness" to leave "NOW"
As for the legend,, I've been in the area, there are some "Signs" that make ya wonder, the Eagle in the rock face, and some other peculiar marks in the hills,, but I was escorted off the Native land when I was 17 while Bow hunting,, I think I was cut a break because of my age and "Willingness" to leave "NOW"
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Was it a law enforcement officer who escorted you off the indian land?
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"Brigham Young had a vision of this gold mine that was located in what is now Uintah county"
Wonder if the 'old boy' had a hit off the same pipe my prophet did??
RUS
Wonder if the 'old boy' had a hit off the same pipe my prophet did??
RUS
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There's absolutely NO doubt where Brigham's gold came from, it's well documented. Even the angel Moroni on top of the salt lake temple is made of spanish gold from the uintah's.
The question is....is any of it left up there?
I sure think so, that's why the ute's are so uptight about any tresspassers. they are protecting SOMETHING up there besides their land!
Will anyone find it or retreive it.....i doubt in my lifetime i'll ever see it happen.
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
The question is....is any of it left up there?
I sure think so, that's why the ute's are so uptight about any tresspassers. they are protecting SOMETHING up there besides their land!
Will anyone find it or retreive it.....i doubt in my lifetime i'll ever see it happen.
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
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ClorideRUS
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"Even the angel Moroni on top of the salt lake temple is made of spanish gold from the uintah's."
DUNK! would that be solid gold or a thin gold plating? Not that it matters, I'm not trying to assemble a gang of thieves or anything!
"FOR CRYING OUT LOUD" you guy's crack me up!
RUS
DUNK! would that be solid gold or a thin gold plating? Not that it matters, I'm not trying to assemble a gang of thieves or anything!
"FOR CRYING OUT LOUD" you guy's crack me up!
RUS
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Well Rus, that part i can't answer, but i have always wondered that myself....."but not that it matters".
However, that part IS true and if i'm thinking right, so is the angel Moroni on top of the Manti temple. It's all from that same gold from the Ute's that Caleb Rhoades went and got from Chief Walker (actually spelled Walkara), along with the coins the mormon's minted.
Like i said earlier, all this is fact, but does the treasure still exist hidden in the Uintah mountains?
I thinks so....and so does many others, there's just nothing noone can do about it.
It's a good thing that sh*t don't rust!!
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
However, that part IS true and if i'm thinking right, so is the angel Moroni on top of the Manti temple. It's all from that same gold from the Ute's that Caleb Rhoades went and got from Chief Walker (actually spelled Walkara), along with the coins the mormon's minted.
Like i said earlier, all this is fact, but does the treasure still exist hidden in the Uintah mountains?
I thinks so....and so does many others, there's just nothing noone can do about it.
It's a good thing that sh*t don't rust!!
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
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Bullscrub! I just got my super duper guaranteed gold finder from Cabelas! Soon as I finish up on Montezuma?s stash I'm heading for Altamont! Screw the curse! Me & Ute?s get along real good!
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There isn't an Indian breathing that can leave the money in the slots unmolested, do you really believe they could protect gold ? Alot of gold !!
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Good point D13er, that has crossed my mind a time or two.
Especially how "poor" the Ute tribe is.
The only thing that comes to mind is "If it's sacred enough too them they'll leave it alone".
The money WE give them every month means absolutely nothing to them, it's actually a slap in their faces.
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
Especially how "poor" the Ute tribe is.
The only thing that comes to mind is "If it's sacred enough too them they'll leave it alone".
The money WE give them every month means absolutely nothing to them, it's actually a slap in their faces.
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
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"i hear them squaw's working in there like them skinny white boys!"
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD: I wonder what them gals would do to a chubby old guy like me??? Guess I'll go to sleep & dream about the possibles!!!
RUS
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD: I wonder what them gals would do to a chubby old guy like me??? Guess I'll go to sleep & dream about the possibles!!!
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I'm wondering how long it would take to hack-saw 'ol Moroni off his stem... have a hell-o-chopter swoop in, net the old boy 'an the saw-man, fly right to Me-hee-co, live like a king, on the beach down by LaPas in a shack, perty seniorita bringing cervesas...
I have my own spanish mine story.
Got caught up in it perty good.
I have my own spanish mine story.
Got caught up in it perty good.
Slam If I were you I would ask Rutnbuck about the Silver bars recovered from the Spanish Coke Ovens in the Uintas. Also Read George Thompsons Lost Cabin of Browns Park. Then ask Rut where the cabin is at and he will tell you SSS. I can send ya a link Yeah we found the cabin and I have also linked Butch to it. . SSS
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rutnbuck-
It's no use, some of these guys don't even like to entertain the thought of "history" when there is treasure and wealth involved, it's too big of a thought to even fathom.
But thanks for your enthusiasm, sound like you are open minded about it. I have all the George Thompson books and actually got too meet him before he died.
This stuff may just all be dreams to us these days, but it's all very real for the most part and does or has existed at some point in time.
Mostly i read that stuff because it happened right here in my state and is how it all got started around here.
slam
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
It's no use, some of these guys don't even like to entertain the thought of "history" when there is treasure and wealth involved, it's too big of a thought to even fathom.
But thanks for your enthusiasm, sound like you are open minded about it. I have all the George Thompson books and actually got too meet him before he died.
This stuff may just all be dreams to us these days, but it's all very real for the most part and does or has existed at some point in time.
Mostly i read that stuff because it happened right here in my state and is how it all got started around here.
slam
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Speaking of Butch Cassidy-
It gives me goosebumps when i'm down in the Henry Mountains and snoop around where "Eagle City" used to be. It's hard to fathom such a large town down there big enough to have TWO brothels and numerous salloon's.
Butch was pretty fond of that little city....i can see why!
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
It gives me goosebumps when i'm down in the Henry Mountains and snoop around where "Eagle City" used to be. It's hard to fathom such a large town down there big enough to have TWO brothels and numerous salloon's.
Butch was pretty fond of that little city....i can see why!
Skull Krazy
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Hang in there Slam. I have been pretty lucky. I have been able to chase gold and lore from here to Alaska, Mt, Yukon Tert. Nv. Ut. and Idaho. Some Dreams Die and some don't eh? I was working an old Klondike mine in the Yukon. The gold we found was unreal. It wasn't my nickle so I didn't get to keep it. We were averaging 30-40 oz a day. One nugget we found sits in the Carson Nugget Casino. However the best find was an old klondike miners cave. I was working a hill side on a bull dozer. I had pushed away a bunch of dead fall. I looked up and there was a door on the hill side. I thought maybe I had uncovered a hide out or something. But then realized no one had been around there for years. So I went inside only to find all of the old boys tools, picks, gold pans, shovels, pack saddles, snow shoes made of sienu. All from the late 1800's The Canadian gov would not let the items leave the Country. I have been all over the Henerys. I have a couple leads I need to check out on a possible glory hole. I have an Uncle that spent his whole life chaseing glory holes down there. He talks of a digging he found that is worthy of going back and checking it out better. He has only been there one time and his health won't let him hike up there. He is 70 but found this just a few years back. Wish I had more time to spend down there. That is not much to go by but just some incouragement. I am going to stay focused on the Cabin of Browns park. $20,000. in Double Gold eagles. I am not talking a lot about it now but here ya go.
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Thanks for sharing that story, that's some neat stuff!
Personally i have never looked for the lost Rhoades mines, i'm just intrigued by the story and beleive it does exist.
I don't have near the knowledge, time nor the resources to even fathom going fter something like this, i just like reading and talking about it because i am a beleiver in it.
As for what i found in the Henry's, i stumbled across that while deer hunting. That intrigued me to read more into some history books and have learned a lot since.
I also found a really old partial cabin down there in a place that was well hidden and had absolutely no view for the owner....it seemed very strange it was even built there in the first place, and i still beleive it was hidden for a reason.
Ed Wolverton built that water wheel in Straight Canyon on Pennell with his hands all by himself for some reason...he was obviously onto something in that area!
Right after Daris Ekker passed away (no love loss there!) the new mine operator of the Bromide told me they found an old door inside the mine that had been sealed off. When they entered it, they found a ton of old ancient mining equipment and a burlap blanket that had the skeleton of an old donkey wrapped up in it that still had saddle bags on....empty though of course.
Now whether or not ANY of these old stories have things that exist today or not, no one will know until they find something. But too sit back and laugh and poke fun at the people who do go looking is even more lame and ignorant.
Most of the stories we read today have validity, some exaggerated maybe and some not even talked about yet at all. But they are built around actual facts of our forefathers and founders and it's a slap in their faces to laugh and say it didn't really happen....because it did, and this is why we are here now.....we are reminants of it all.
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Skull Krazy
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Thanks for sharing that story, that's some neat stuff!
Personally i have never looked for the lost Rhoades mines, i'm just intrigued by the story and beleive it does exist.
I don't have near the knowledge, time nor the resources to even fathom going fter something like this, i just like reading and talking about it because i am a beleiver in it.
As for what i found in the Henry's, i stumbled across that while deer hunting. That intrigued me to read more into some history books and have learned a lot since.
I also found a really old partial cabin down there in a place that was well hidden and had absolutely no view for the owner....it seemed very strange it was even built there in the first place, and i still beleive it was hidden for a reason.
Ed Wolverton built that water wheel in Straight Canyon on Pennell with his hands all by himself for some reason...he was obviously onto something in that area!
Right after Daris Ekker passed away (no love loss there!) the new mine operator of the Bromide told me they found an old door inside the mine that had been sealed off. When they entered it, they found a ton of old ancient mining equipment and a burlap blanket that had the skeleton of an old donkey wrapped up in it that still had saddle bags on....empty though of course.
Now whether or not ANY of these old stories have things that exist today or not, no one will know until they find something. But too sit back and laugh and poke fun at the people who do go looking is even more lame and ignorant.
Most of the stories we read today have validity, some exaggerated maybe and some not even talked about yet at all. But they are built around actual facts of our forefathers and founders and it's a slap in their faces to laugh and say it didn't really happen....because it did, and this is why we are here now.....we are reminants of it all.
slam
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oakey
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some good stuff here! i love it. i found a gold ring in a cabin in alaska back in 74 was a alaska ring with a musher and dog team carved in it. we would go out at -tide and look at the beachs for old junk. then go into the bush and start looking for old cabins. my buddy found a 50 cal in the floor boards of one. was wraped up in a bear skin with a flask of whiskey. rick
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I think BOBCATBESS is D.B. Cooper!
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I know all about the Rhoades mine. Ive even been in it before. The owners/caretakers have since changed. Its no longer being guarded by the Utes or their descendants. Its now being watched over by 3 people. . . two men, and a woman who looks like a man. They drive an old SUV, I think its a Cherokee or something. They watch over the entrance to the cave, but once you get in, there is a brother of theirs that guards the actual gold. If you give him Rocky Road ice cream or a Baby Ruth Bar, he will let you take a gold bar out. Yall have said lots about people dying that go up there. That is true. There are lots of bootie traps there. If you decide to go look for it, go prepared. You will need to bring dynamite, pinchers of peril, and know how to play the piano. There is also an old indian dance that you will want to be familiar with. Its called the truffle shuffle. Best of luck to you all in your quest. Remember, watch out for bootie traps.
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If you all study more you will notice there is more then one lost rhoades mine that is why mines is plural... And yes bad things happen to people that mess with the Rhoades mines or they that take gold out of these mines Look what happened to Thompson.. read up on the books boys the maps are all changed you think they would give you 30 or so maps of these mines and there locations? think again they move little things the publish them keep looking though they might have made a big mistake in one of the first books published. I know from experience..
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I've read just about every book and article on the Lost Rhoades Mines. The mines that hold much of the gold are on the reservation. There are many legends of how the mines are watched over and how those who find the gold die. The reason they die is because the gold was laced with arcenic, and yes that will kill you, if not handled properly! Not the spirits or whatever people think are watching over these mines. Thompson spent many years on the South slope of the Uintahs searching these mines, and found gold. Did he find any mother lodes? He sure didn't live the life of a man who had. The story is truely facinating. Have you read any of the books or spent much time looking for all the mines?
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Elkslayer & southy-
Thanks for bringing my post back in line, i was losing interest because of all the sarcasm by the skeptics. But that's ok, this is a public forum and i expected it when i started it.
Though i have never actually even looked for any of these mines, mostly because it would be like finding a needle in a haystack....or worse.
I'm just fascinated by the whole thing and do beleive it's true.
There is absolutely NO doubt this is where Brigham Young got his gold for everything it was used for. Anyone that has any knowledge whatsoever about the big trek west for the mormon's knows how they came here with basically nothing. You can't tell me they packed hundreds of pounds of gold along with them!!
And we know the spanish were here, you can see that by all the markings left behind, not too mention the artifacts that have been found.
I have the original book "Footprints In The Wilderness" by Gale Rhoades and it is an amazing book. It has WAY more information in it than the George Thompson books "Faded Footprints" or "Some Dreams Die", and this is why the Rhoades family stopped it from being published.
As far as Kerry Ross Boren being in on the writing of the book, that really doesn't take anything away from it because he went to prison over the salamandar letter scandal. The guy was a historian and had compiled more information than any library could even fathom obtaining. That guy went to prison because of something he truly beleived in, he just went WAY overboard...obviously.
Personally i don't beleive the mines will ever be found and opened by our people, but i do beleive the Ute tribe knows their whereabouts. But it is very sacred to them because hunderds of their people were killed by the spanish being used as slaves. They overcame the spanish and put a curse on the mines that THEY beleive in and sealed them up.
They dispise that gold, it's not a "treasure" to them by anymeans.
Skull Krazy
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Thanks for bringing my post back in line, i was losing interest because of all the sarcasm by the skeptics. But that's ok, this is a public forum and i expected it when i started it.
Though i have never actually even looked for any of these mines, mostly because it would be like finding a needle in a haystack....or worse.
I'm just fascinated by the whole thing and do beleive it's true.
There is absolutely NO doubt this is where Brigham Young got his gold for everything it was used for. Anyone that has any knowledge whatsoever about the big trek west for the mormon's knows how they came here with basically nothing. You can't tell me they packed hundreds of pounds of gold along with them!!
And we know the spanish were here, you can see that by all the markings left behind, not too mention the artifacts that have been found.
I have the original book "Footprints In The Wilderness" by Gale Rhoades and it is an amazing book. It has WAY more information in it than the George Thompson books "Faded Footprints" or "Some Dreams Die", and this is why the Rhoades family stopped it from being published.
As far as Kerry Ross Boren being in on the writing of the book, that really doesn't take anything away from it because he went to prison over the salamandar letter scandal. The guy was a historian and had compiled more information than any library could even fathom obtaining. That guy went to prison because of something he truly beleived in, he just went WAY overboard...obviously.
Personally i don't beleive the mines will ever be found and opened by our people, but i do beleive the Ute tribe knows their whereabouts. But it is very sacred to them because hunderds of their people were killed by the spanish being used as slaves. They overcame the spanish and put a curse on the mines that THEY beleive in and sealed them up.
They dispise that gold, it's not a "treasure" to them by anymeans.
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You dont have to worry about arsenic if you bring your marble bag to put the gold in.
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You guys are all way off. I initially heard stories of the Lost Rhodes mines as a child, and over the last 30 years I’ve read so much information that it makes my head spin at times. The Lost Rhodes Mines are also referred to as the Sacred Mines, one of which is called Carre-Shinob, which contain gold from the Aztec king, Montezuma’s treasure. The gold in those specific mines wasn't ever mined in the Uintas, it was already processed and brought up here on the trek by Montezuma’s men. When Cortez showed his true colors, Montezuma sent approximately 1500 of his people North with as much gold as they could carry. It is documented, but they wound up in the Uinta’s, and met up with local tribesmen. The local tribes had never seen anyone like the Aztecs, all bedazzled in gold and jewels, and believed they were spiritual beings of sorts. Once Cortez found out what Montezuma did, he sent his own men on expeditions North trying to find where they took the gold. That's how the Spanish ended up in the Uintas, but they were also in other parts of the Southwest. They never learned the location of Montezuma’s treasure but they did do their own mining and they did force Native Americans into slavery, forcing them to mine for them. Eventually the natives grew tired of this and rebelled, killing several Spaniards, forcing them out of the country, and burying many of their mines.
Between the Natives and the forest service, they have hidden, buried, and blasted any known or found mines, and even changed carved symbols, and added others to throw people off.
When the Mormons came to the land they were broke and when Chief Wakara met with Brigham Young he could see this and through certain negotiations (long story short) Chief Wakara allowed an old man by the last name of Moorley I think, to first know the location of the mine and he took 52 lbs of gold back to Brigham Young. I believe he only made 2 trips before he complained about being too old to do it. That's when the secret was passed to Thomas Rhodes who, before dying, passed it on to Caleb Rhodes, his son. Thomas Rhodes got sick and died and Caleb Rhodes was later shot by Natives for going into the mines without obtaining permission or providing notification. Plus, he was making secret maps of his own.
With the death of Caleb, permission to the mine was withdrawn and the location was lost with Caleb’s death.
The Angel Moroni, on top of the temple, is not and was never made of solid gold. It was originally gold plated but has since been replaced. The Mormons have an enormous cave up a nearby canyon where they allegedly have the original stored, along with several other historical documents and allegedly a lot of gold. Apparently, they have all, or most of the original maps which show the true location of several mines.
You can't trust Kerry Boren. He is known, and has admitted to, throwing red herrings into his maps and stories. If you try to trust the maps, you'll just end up lost like the mine.
While Caleb was alive he did start his own mines and some of those mines have been located. I know where two mines are, but I have yet to take anything out of them because they are on National Forest land and wouldn't be able to do anything with what's inside without the government taking it all.
Between the Natives and the forest service, they have hidden, buried, and blasted any known or found mines, and even changed carved symbols, and added others to throw people off.
When the Mormons came to the land they were broke and when Chief Wakara met with Brigham Young he could see this and through certain negotiations (long story short) Chief Wakara allowed an old man by the last name of Moorley I think, to first know the location of the mine and he took 52 lbs of gold back to Brigham Young. I believe he only made 2 trips before he complained about being too old to do it. That's when the secret was passed to Thomas Rhodes who, before dying, passed it on to Caleb Rhodes, his son. Thomas Rhodes got sick and died and Caleb Rhodes was later shot by Natives for going into the mines without obtaining permission or providing notification. Plus, he was making secret maps of his own.
With the death of Caleb, permission to the mine was withdrawn and the location was lost with Caleb’s death.
The Angel Moroni, on top of the temple, is not and was never made of solid gold. It was originally gold plated but has since been replaced. The Mormons have an enormous cave up a nearby canyon where they allegedly have the original stored, along with several other historical documents and allegedly a lot of gold. Apparently, they have all, or most of the original maps which show the true location of several mines.
You can't trust Kerry Boren. He is known, and has admitted to, throwing red herrings into his maps and stories. If you try to trust the maps, you'll just end up lost like the mine.
While Caleb was alive he did start his own mines and some of those mines have been located. I know where two mines are, but I have yet to take anything out of them because they are on National Forest land and wouldn't be able to do anything with what's inside without the government taking it all.
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I knew an old gentleman by the name of Tom McBrom (sp) from Elsinore, Utah back about 35 years ago. He claimed he worked in a commercially owned gold mine very close to the north side of the State Capital Building, in Salt Lake City. When that gold was discovered or who discovered it, I don’t know. May have been mined by Brighan Young’s folkower back the 1850’s There were and are numerous other old gold mining operation in Utah. The Kimberly mining district, east of Beaver, the mines east of Rush Valley, west of Provo/Spanish Fork, The Tintic Mines in Eureka, Utah etc
Jessie Knight and other mining prospectors/entrepreneurs have, in decades past, donate many mining claims/operations to the LDS/Mormon Church.
Also, there is ample archaeological evidence the Spanish were in Utah prior to 1847 when Brigham Young and the LDS arrived. Santa Fe was established in approx.1607. The Spanish were always prospecting for gold in both North and South America…….. these are historical facts.
I have no trouble believing Brigham Young knew the Spanish history as well. It’s also not hard to believe he want/needed money to secure the colonization of the State of Deseret (as the area was called by Young and his followers). There was gold in Deseret and he knew it. It not too hard to believe he sent out men to look for it. Nor it is hard to believe they found some gold and that he had them mine it. The same thing happened in Calif, Nevada, Colorado and Montana, but those areas where not prospected by people sent there by Brigham Young.
It’s also not to hard to believe that some innovative person couldn’t have written a totally fabricated tall about the Rhoades mines, that became folk lore.
Regardless, there was gold here, people looked for it and found it, some may have been shown mines by the Utes, some, not all were LDS/Mormons…….. they were the ones living here after 1847. The truth is there are still a number of people (Mormons and non-Mormons) who prospect for gold, year round in Utah, as they do in Nevada, Calif, Alaska, Colorado etc.
What the Utes have in mines or know about is anyone’s guess, whether they shared some gold with Brigham Young and his follower, makes no difference to me. This is fact however……there was and still is gold here, it was found by Mormons and others, and some of it did and probably is still being donated to the LDS /Mormon Church, the same way the man who discovered the billion dollar oil field 10 miles from my home, near Sigurd, Utah some 20- 25 years ago, donated millions of dollars to his Protestant Church back in Michigan (Wolverine Gas and Oil) Which, not by accident is, in Utah State’s oil production records, listed as “The Covenant Field”. Nothing whatever to do with the LDS/Mormon Church.
Jessie Knight and other mining prospectors/entrepreneurs have, in decades past, donate many mining claims/operations to the LDS/Mormon Church.
Also, there is ample archaeological evidence the Spanish were in Utah prior to 1847 when Brigham Young and the LDS arrived. Santa Fe was established in approx.1607. The Spanish were always prospecting for gold in both North and South America…….. these are historical facts.
I have no trouble believing Brigham Young knew the Spanish history as well. It’s also not hard to believe he want/needed money to secure the colonization of the State of Deseret (as the area was called by Young and his followers). There was gold in Deseret and he knew it. It not too hard to believe he sent out men to look for it. Nor it is hard to believe they found some gold and that he had them mine it. The same thing happened in Calif, Nevada, Colorado and Montana, but those areas where not prospected by people sent there by Brigham Young.
It’s also not to hard to believe that some innovative person couldn’t have written a totally fabricated tall about the Rhoades mines, that became folk lore.
Regardless, there was gold here, people looked for it and found it, some may have been shown mines by the Utes, some, not all were LDS/Mormons…….. they were the ones living here after 1847. The truth is there are still a number of people (Mormons and non-Mormons) who prospect for gold, year round in Utah, as they do in Nevada, Calif, Alaska, Colorado etc.
What the Utes have in mines or know about is anyone’s guess, whether they shared some gold with Brigham Young and his follower, makes no difference to me. This is fact however……there was and still is gold here, it was found by Mormons and others, and some of it did and probably is still being donated to the LDS /Mormon Church, the same way the man who discovered the billion dollar oil field 10 miles from my home, near Sigurd, Utah some 20- 25 years ago, donated millions of dollars to his Protestant Church back in Michigan (Wolverine Gas and Oil) Which, not by accident is, in Utah State’s oil production records, listed as “The Covenant Field”. Nothing whatever to do with the LDS/Mormon Church.
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How many sluice boxes do you work? You don't have to answer that.
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Ha…….. I bought a pan years ago. Drove over to the Kimberly’s and claim jumped a few creeks to try it out. It must be defective because, I would scoop up a pan full and after a half dozen swirls, all the water was gone, the gravel was gone and so was the sand. On close inspection, so was thousands in gold nuggets. After a couple a hundred try’s I took the pan back to the hardware store for a refund……. Bottemline, it’s still hanging, rusting in my garage.
I know of a guy out on the west coast that has a Ute Indian type honey hole that I’m going follow one of these days. They tell me he’s an ornery SOB. Probably get shot……
I know of a guy out on the west coast that has a Ute Indian type honey hole that I’m going follow one of these days. They tell me he’s an ornery SOB. Probably get shot……
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When you wonder who could possibly be tricked into thinking SFW and MDF are about conservation an example comes along…
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When The Spaniards Rolled Through This Country They Gathered Up Everything That Was Easily Accessible!
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Ya right. Like im goint to answer that question
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Is this another AI post?
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The kind of stuff SS uses.
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artificial intelligence
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Some miners I know use rusty gold pans because they're great for trapping fine gold. Don't throw it out.
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Well then…… I’ll be treating it with white vinegar, table salt, and hydrogen peroxide first thing tomorrow.
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He's been typing in caps for a long time.
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Hey hawk?
You Up On That Story?
A Dr. Is Dead!
The NARC Is Dead!
And One Other Person Is Dead!
I Met That Dr a Couple Of Times!
He Sure Didn't Seem To Be That Bad Guy They Was trying To Make Him!
Kinda Reminds Me Of The Illegal ATV Ride They Had Down There A Few years Back!
5 Or 6 Were Singled Out!
One Of The Bundys & A Couple Of His Kids Showed Up & Bundy Himself Was The Lead Instigator Going Past The ROAD CLOSED Line First!
Bundy Wasn't Singled Out!
WTH?
You Up On That Story?
A Dr. Is Dead!
The NARC Is Dead!
And One Other Person Is Dead!
I Met That Dr a Couple Of Times!
He Sure Didn't Seem To Be That Bad Guy They Was trying To Make Him!
Kinda Reminds Me Of The Illegal ATV Ride They Had Down There A Few years Back!
5 Or 6 Were Singled Out!
One Of The Bundys & A Couple Of His Kids Showed Up & Bundy Himself Was The Lead Instigator Going Past The ROAD CLOSED Line First!
Bundy Wasn't Singled Out!
WTH?
