How many sluice boxes do you work? You don't have to answer that.I knew an old gentleman by the name of Tom McBrom (sp) from Elsinore, Utah back about 35 years ago. He claimed he worked in a commercially owned gold mine very close to the north side of the State Capital Building, in Salt Lake City. When that gold was discovered or who discovered it, I don’t know. May have been mined by Brighan Young’s folkower back the 1850’s There were and are numerous other old gold mining operation in Utah. The Kimberly mining district, east of Beaver, the mines east of Rush Valley, west of Provo/Spanish Fork, The Tintic Mines in Eureka, Utah etc
Jessie Knight and other mining prospectors/entrepreneurs have, in decades past, donate many mining claims/operations to the LDS/Mormon Church.
Also, there is ample archaeological evidence the Spanish were in Utah prior to 1847 when Brigham Young and the LDS arrived. Santa Fe was established in approx.1607. The Spanish were always prospecting for gold in both North and South America…….. these are historical facts.
I have no trouble believing Brigham Young knew the Spanish history as well. It’s also not hard to believe he want/needed money to secure the colonization of the State of Deseret (as the area was called by Young and his followers). There was gold in Deseret and he knew it. It not too hard to believe he sent out men to look for it. Nor it is hard to believe they found some gold and that he had them mine it. The same thing happened in Calif, Nevada, Colorado and Montana, but those areas where not prospected by people sent there by Brigham Young.
It’s also not to hard to believe that some innovative person couldn’t have written a totally fabricated tall about the Rhoades mines, that became folk lore.
Regardless, there was gold here, people looked for it and found it, some may have been shown mines by the Utes, some, not all were LDS/Mormons…….. they were the ones living here after 1847. The truth is there are still a number of people (Mormons and non-Mormons) who prospect for gold, year round in Utah, as they do in Nevada, Calif, Alaska, Colorado etc.
What the Utes have in mines or know about is anyone’s guess, whether they shared some gold with Brigham Young and his follower, makes no difference to me. This is fact however……there was and still is gold here, it was found by Mormons and others, and some of it did and probably is still being donated to the LDS /Mormon Church, the same way the man who discovered the billion dollar oil field 10 miles from my home, near Sigurd, Utah some 20- 25 years ago, donated millions of dollars to his Protestant Church back in Michigan (Wolverine Gas and Oil) Which, not by accident is, in Utah State’s oil production records, listed as “The Covenant Field”. Nothing whatever to do with the LDS/Mormon Church.
When you wonder who could possibly be tricked into thinking SFW and MDF are about conservation an example comes along…You guys are all way off. I initially heard stories of the Lost Rhodes mines as a child, and over the last 30 years I’ve read so much information that it makes my head spin at times. The Lost Rhodes Mines are also referred to as the Sacred Mines, one of which is called Carre-Shinob, which contain gold from the Aztec king, Montezuma’s treasure. The gold in those specific mines wasn't ever mined in the Uintas, it was already processed and brought up here on the trek by Montezuma’s men. When Cortez showed his true colors, Montezuma sent approximately 1500 of his people North with as much gold as they could carry. It is documented, but they wound up in the Uinta’s, and met up with local tribesmen. The local tribes had never seen anyone like the Aztecs, all bedazzled in gold and jewels, and believed they were spiritual beings of sorts. Once Cortez found out what Montezuma did, he sent his own men on expeditions North trying to find where they took the gold. That's how the Spanish ended up in the Uintas, but they were also in other parts of the Southwest. They never learned the location of Montezuma’s treasure but they did do their own mining and they did force Native Americans into slavery, forcing them to mine for them. Eventually the natives grew tired of this and rebelled, killing several Spaniards, forcing them out of the country, and burying many of their mines.
Between the Natives and the forest service, they have hidden, buried, and blasted any known or found mines, and even changed carved symbols, and added others to throw people off.
When the Mormons came to the land they were broke and when Chief Wakara met with Brigham Young he could see this and through certain negotiations (long story short) Chief Wakara allowed an old man by the last name of Moorley I think, to first know the location of the mine and he took 52 lbs of gold back to Brigham Young. I believe he only made 2 trips before he complained about being too old to do it. That's when the secret was passed to Thomas Rhodes who, before dying, passed it on to Caleb Rhodes, his son. Thomas Rhodes got sick and died and Caleb Rhodes was later shot by Natives for going into the mines without obtaining permission or providing notification. Plus, he was making secret maps of his own.
With the death of Caleb, permission to the mine was withdrawn and the location was lost with Caleb’s death.
The Angel Moroni, on top of the temple, is not and was never made of solid gold. It was originally gold plated but has since been replaced. The Mormons have an enormous cave up a nearby canyon where they allegedly have the original stored, along with several other historical documents and allegedly a lot of gold. Apparently, they have all, or most of the original maps which show the true location of several mines.
You can't trust Kerry Boren. He is known, and has admitted to, throwing red herrings into his maps and stories. If you try to trust the maps, you'll just end up lost like the mine.
While Caleb was alive he did start his own mines and some of those mines have been located. I know where two mines are, but I have yet to take anything out of them because they are on National Forest land and wouldn't be able to do anything with what's inside without the government taking it all.
We haven’t even talked about those from Chicago and New York that were tricked into funding the mining of the sand bars in the Colorado River. Utahan aren’t the first or the last of the naive folks.When you wonder who could possibly be tricked into thinking SFW and MDF are about conservation an example comes along…
bobcatbess was a guest In 2007?
Ya right. Like im goint to answer that questionAny ORO?
You guys are all way off. I initially heard stories of the Lost Rhodes mines as a child, and over the last 30 years I’ve read so much information that it makes my head spin at times. The Lost Rhodes Mines are also referred to as the Sacred Mines, one of which is called Carre-Shinob, which contain gold from the Aztec king, Montezuma’s treasure. The gold in those specific mines wasn't ever mined in the Uintas, it was already processed and brought up here on the trek by Montezuma’s men. When Cortez showed his true colors, Montezuma sent approximately 1500 of his people North with as much gold as they could carry. It is documented, but they wound up in the Uinta’s, and met up with local tribesmen. The local tribes had never seen anyone like the Aztecs, all bedazzled in gold and jewels, and believed they were spiritual beings of sorts. Once Cortez found out what Montezuma did, he sent his own men on expeditions North trying to find where they took the gold. That's how the Spanish ended up in the Uintas, but they were also in other parts of the Southwest. They never learned the location of Montezuma’s treasure but they did do their own mining and they did force Native Americans into slavery, forcing them to mine for them. Eventually the natives grew tired of this and rebelled, killing several Spaniards, forcing them out of the country, and burying many of their mines.
Between the Natives and the forest service, they have hidden, buried, and blasted any known or found mines, and even changed carved symbols, and added others to throw people off.
When the Mormons came to the land they were broke and when Chief Wakara met with Brigham Young he could see this and through certain negotiations (long story short) Chief Wakara allowed an old man by the last name of Moorley I think, to first know the location of the mine and he took 52 lbs of gold back to Brigham Young. I believe he only made 2 trips before he complained about being too old to do it. That's when the secret was passed to Thomas Rhodes who, before dying, passed it on to Caleb Rhodes, his son. Thomas Rhodes got sick and died and Caleb Rhodes was later shot by Natives for going into the mines without obtaining permission or providing notification. Plus, he was making secret maps of his own.
With the death of Caleb, permission to the mine was withdrawn and the location was lost with Caleb’s death.
The Angel Moroni, on top of the temple, is not and was never made of solid gold. It was originally gold plated but has since been replaced. The Mormons have an enormous cave up a nearby canyon where they allegedly have the original stored, along with several other historical documents and allegedly a lot of gold. Apparently, they have all, or most of the original maps which show the true location of several mines.
You can't trust Kerry Boren. He is known, and has admitted to, throwing red herrings into his maps and stories. If you try to trust the maps, you'll just end up lost like the mine.
While Caleb was alive he did start his own mines and some of those mines have been located. I know where two mines are, but I have yet to take anything out of them because they are on National Forest land and wouldn't be able to do anything with what's inside without the government taking it all.
The kind of stuff SS uses.What’s AI.?
artificial intelligenceWhat’s AI.?
Some miners I know use rusty gold pans because they're great for trapping fine gold. Don't throw it out.Bottemline, it’s still hanging, rusting in my garage.
Well then…… I’ll be treating it with white vinegar, table salt, and hydrogen peroxide first thing tomorrow.Some miners I know use rusty gold pans because they're great for trapping fine gold. Don't throw it out.
He's been typing in caps for a long time.bobcatbess was a guest In 2007?
He's been typing in caps for a long time.
These guys might know where the gold is.View attachment 138424