John_The_Bastard
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This time of year I resupply my firewood. This whiteoak did not have a straight sawlog so I am converting it to split wood to make BTU's. Turkey season begins a week from Monday.....Can't wait!
J_T_B
Anyone cut wood?
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This time of year I resupply my firewood. This whiteoak did not have a straight sawlog so I am converting it to split wood to make BTU's. Turkey season begins a week from Monday.....Can't wait!
J_T_B
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Woulda took a Stihl to cut a Tree like that!
Does a Tree make a Sound in the Woods when it Falls?
Damn Straight they do when they're Big Enough!
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Does a Tree make a Sound in the Woods when it Falls?
Damn Straight they do when they're Big Enough!
We laugh, we cry, we love
Go hard when the going's tough
Push back, come push and shove
Knock us down, we'll get back up again and again
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Paid my way through CSU Fresno selling blue/black/white, and live oak. After that I just cut for beer money and my fireplace. My favorite to burn is live oak. PC
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Nice lumpy. theres a lot of satisfaction in using your own lumber. Hard work for a man getting a little older!
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Hell yes it makes a sound and the ground moves. A game warden once told me that if a tree falls in the woods and no one see's it happen it probably didn't happen. He was referring to shooting certain preditors! My kind of peace officer!
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I ran a small firewood business by myself on the side for about 25 years. On good years, i'd deliver about 100 cords, maybe half that those years when i was too busy with my regular jobs but always took care of my established customers.
Locally here, the price of decent firewood has about doubled from when i was in the game. It's tempting to me to start cutting again but it's been a good while now and truthfully, aside from getting my own, maybe i probably shouldn't.
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Locally here, the price of decent firewood has about doubled from when i was in the game. It's tempting to me to start cutting again but it's been a good while now and truthfully, aside from getting my own, maybe i probably shouldn't.
Joey
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I been cutting all day, I too always like to get my woodshed filled up in springtime for next winter, I've been cutting locust today, that stuff hard on a chain!
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"Hard work for a man getting a little older!"
Truer words were never spoken J-T-B. However.......older, but more the wiser!
I have learned from my bruises, I now use bigger, LONGER chains, bigger, better saws, and I finally got a set of loading ramps built, that with a vehicle and a trailer, I can drop'em a hundred yards from the road, down hill (where the younger wood cutters won't go down to get), pull them up to the road with chains and snatch block pulleys, put a crows foot on them and roll them up on my ramps, almost without breaking a sweat. Liming them is generally the most strenuous part of it. Oh.....hauling my fat butt out of the bottom, at 10,000 feet, is not much fun but it's good for me!
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I could actually do it alone but again, being older and wiser (sometimes), I generally talk one of my buds into riding along now-days. The very best part about it now, is if it takes me all day or two, who cares, I have not schedule to keep no, nobody waiting for me, or nobody but Momma to cuss me out if I work over time, or sleep tiil noon. ;-)
Here are a few pics off a video I did, loading some logs. I have to cut them in 8 foot length before I haul them off the mountain (Federal Regulations-firewood rules, you know.) I load then long because it is quicker to load then long, then cut them on the trailer, rather that have to load 3 times as many 8 foot lengths.
Crows Foot chains under the log,and back to the trailer.
Attaching the pull strap to the vehicle.
If you look closely you can see the V going over the top of the log, then under it and back to each end of the trailer. The center of the chain is attached to the pull strap going back to the vehicle. As the vehicle pulls away the V chain rolls the log gently up the ramps, over the fenders and drops it on to the trailer.
Ready to drop on the trailer.
One more loaded, getting ready to load the next one.
Pretty much not sweat. The timbers that I cut them into need to be "man handled" when I'm moving them around. 6" x 10" x 8' and I that's were I need a little help from the boys.
DC
Truer words were never spoken J-T-B. However.......older, but more the wiser!
I have learned from my bruises, I now use bigger, LONGER chains, bigger, better saws, and I finally got a set of loading ramps built, that with a vehicle and a trailer, I can drop'em a hundred yards from the road, down hill (where the younger wood cutters won't go down to get), pull them up to the road with chains and snatch block pulleys, put a crows foot on them and roll them up on my ramps, almost without breaking a sweat. Liming them is generally the most strenuous part of it. Oh.....hauling my fat butt out of the bottom, at 10,000 feet, is not much fun but it's good for me!
.I could actually do it alone but again, being older and wiser (sometimes), I generally talk one of my buds into riding along now-days. The very best part about it now, is if it takes me all day or two, who cares, I have not schedule to keep no, nobody waiting for me, or nobody but Momma to cuss me out if I work over time, or sleep tiil noon. ;-)
Here are a few pics off a video I did, loading some logs. I have to cut them in 8 foot length before I haul them off the mountain (Federal Regulations-firewood rules, you know.) I load then long because it is quicker to load then long, then cut them on the trailer, rather that have to load 3 times as many 8 foot lengths.
Crows Foot chains under the log,and back to the trailer.
Attaching the pull strap to the vehicle.
If you look closely you can see the V going over the top of the log, then under it and back to each end of the trailer. The center of the chain is attached to the pull strap going back to the vehicle. As the vehicle pulls away the V chain rolls the log gently up the ramps, over the fenders and drops it on to the trailer.
Ready to drop on the trailer.
One more loaded, getting ready to load the next one.
Pretty much not sweat. The timbers that I cut them into need to be "man handled" when I'm moving them around. 6" x 10" x 8' and I that's were I need a little help from the boys.
DC
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JUDAS Lumpy!
You Roll Your Own?
We laugh, we cry, we love
Go hard when the going's tough
Push back, come push and shove
Knock us down, we'll get back up again and again
We are Members of the Huntin Crowd!
You Roll Your Own?
We laugh, we cry, we love
Go hard when the going's tough
Push back, come push and shove
Knock us down, we'll get back up again and again
We are Members of the Huntin Crowd!
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I admire folks who use their ingenuity to do what will accomplish their needs-desires. I have always been more or less a poor-boy. The most spirited posts here point out that we come from poor beginnings and find a way to take part in what we love. We watch the hunting shows and quietly disdain the influence of commercialism. At the same time comercialisim somehow provides the money for our states to allow for our passions to be realized. I think we have a hunters community with guys who wear the best sunglasses and those who lovingly rub oil into the stocks of our favorite old guns. I find comfort in standing shoulder to shoulder and looking for common ground and the warm feeling from our community campfire.
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I cut wood everyday, and bring home a wheelbarrow full or two every night! One of my lawnmowers/elk haulers photo bombin in the background!
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One of my lawnmowers/elk haulers photo bombin in the background!http://www.monstermuleys.info/photos/user_photos3/801920150329_175351.jpeg
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DW, that's my kind of firewood. Surfaced 4 sides (S4S), very little wane. I have free life time firewood from the sawmill I retired from. It's 7 miles from home. Now if it would just get cold enough to build a fire.
2lumpy, you must have known my Dad. He always said "Use your head instead of your back."
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It's written in the good Book that we'll never be asked to take more than we can. Sounds like a good plan, so bring it on!
2lumpy, you must have known my Dad. He always said "Use your head instead of your back."
Eel
It's written in the good Book that we'll never be asked to take more than we can. Sounds like a good plan, so bring it on!
One of the by products of livin so close to wyoming. We had a small twister come thru a few years back beanman, I had a pretty heavy/$70 Rubbermaid trashcan sittin out. It ended up against my neighbors fence a half mile away, cracked in half. I was in the bathtub havin a heart to heart with the man upstairs!
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I've heated with wood for over 30 years. Cut 12-18 cords per year in windy Wyoming. And Beanman, a person has to watch the day when he's doing that falling. If the wind is blowing hard, those widow makers are more frequent and less predictable.
2Lumpy, great system. The Forest Service won't let us cut anything over 8 feet long here, so they'd be after you like stink on poop if they saw that. Great trees.
A friend also has a sawmill and we cut quite a few different things from slabs to corral wood. Working in the trees is a great break from the day-to-day stuff.
2Lumpy, great system. The Forest Service won't let us cut anything over 8 feet long here, so they'd be after you like stink on poop if they saw that. Great trees.
A friend also has a sawmill and we cut quite a few different things from slabs to corral wood. Working in the trees is a great break from the day-to-day stuff.
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Thanks for all the kind comments gents. I'm betting everyone of you "do it yourselvers" has a few tricks of your own figured out. Kind of goes with the territory round there, don't you think!
I've always tried to live by the philosophy: "We ARE going to put this peg in that hole."
Can't say the pegs has always gone in, but even when we've failed, we've made sure there were some marks left on the components!
Might create an interesting thread Sage. Title it, "Better Mouse Traps"
J-T-B, I'm crazy envious of those oak trees your sending up your chimney, hard woods are prized possessions out this way.
DC
I've always tried to live by the philosophy: "We ARE going to put this peg in that hole."
Can't say the pegs has always gone in, but even when we've failed, we've made sure there were some marks left on the components!
Might create an interesting thread Sage. Title it, "Better Mouse Traps"
J-T-B, I'm crazy envious of those oak trees your sending up your chimney, hard woods are prized possessions out this way.
DC
LAST EDITED ON Mar-30-15 AT 12:46PM (MST)[p]U beat me too it on the oak envy lump! I got a buddy that works at a local steel haulin company and they have 4"x3"x8' oak stickers they use to stack steel on their trailers. I don't know what the criteria is, be it cracks, twists, blocks nailed on or what, but at some point they throw em in a pile in back of the business to b hauled off to the landfill at some point. Well not anymore! I'm not yet at that age where I need to answer nature's call 2-3 times a night, so bein able to throw 3 or 4 pieces of that oak on b4 turnin in, and wakein up to hot coals and a warm house is a real bonus. I only used 50 gallons of propane this winter and gathering the wood took very little time or effort. This was my first full winter with the wood burner. Shoulda done it years ago!
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I got a buddy that works at a local steel haulin company and they have 4"x3"x8' oak stickers they use to stack steel on their trailers. I don't know what the criteria is, be it cracks, twists, blocks nailed on or what, but at some point they throw em in a pile in back of the business to b hauled off to the landfill at some point. Well not anymore! I'm not yet at that age where I need to answer nature's call 2-3 times a night, so bein able to throw 3 or 4 pieces of that oak on b4 turnin in, and wakein up to hot coals and a warm house is a real bonus. I only used 50 gallons of propane this winter and gathering the wood took very little time or effort. This was my first full winter with the wood burner. Shoulda done it years ago!http://www.monstermuleys.info/photos/user_photos3/488320150330_122501.jpeg
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I hear you ICM. Our Forest Service is up and down this Mountain a dozen times a day. Our Forest regs allow us to cut dead standing (huge amounts of our pine forest is now dead standing). However, the permit requires nothing longer than 8 feet long can be hauled off the mountain. I imagine that is so outlaws like me don't start selling long milled timber, in competition with the commercial logging companies, or something like that. So I load them long then hop up on that trailer and slice them in 8 foot lengths before I move an inch.
In my opinion the Forest Service should be paying guys like me and fire wood cutters for every load they haul off the mountain rather than charging us $20 a cord. We're cleaning up a fricking disaster they are leaving to turn into a 200 year morass of rotted dead fall, that not human or animal, other than wood ants will ever benefit from.
DC
In my opinion the Forest Service should be paying guys like me and fire wood cutters for every load they haul off the mountain rather than charging us $20 a cord. We're cleaning up a fricking disaster they are leaving to turn into a 200 year morass of rotted dead fall, that not human or animal, other than wood ants will ever benefit from.
DC
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I used to know a girl that liked to chop morning wood.
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Yes I'm lucky as I own 90 acres of hardwood forest. It is bordered by thousands of acres of the Shawnee National Forest. Cutting wood there is not allowed. There are huge oaks everywhere on the public land and it should be harvested but the tree hugging environmentalists cause the necessary studies and permits to be more money than the value of the timber. The trees will die of old age and not help our struggling economy. Trees grow back and harvesting them only temporarily effect wildlife. Another of our governments failures. God bless America......I mean it but she sure has her downfalls!
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Hey Lumpy?
Looks like you might be Violating the 8' Rule?
We laugh, we cry, we love
Go hard when the going's tough
Push back, come push and shove
Knock us down, we'll get back up again and again
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Looks like you might be Violating the 8' Rule?
We laugh, we cry, we love
Go hard when the going's tough
Push back, come push and shove
Knock us down, we'll get back up again and again
We are Members of the Huntin Crowd!
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Like most things found in nature j-t-b, trees are a renewable resource, that left alone will live and died and live again, like forest grass does every year. Left to themselves, some species, like trees and large game species, the cycles in nature take much longer to cycle than grass. However, humans, using appropriate husbandry on these species, ie: trees and large game, greatly reducing the natural cycle lengths and increase the total out put of nature, ten fold.
I've never been one to set by and wait for nature to determine it's whimsical cycle rates, hoping and waiting to see if the stars line up, if we're lucky, which they always do but maybe not for a hundred years or more. I prefer calculated, predictable natural cycles, created by human intervention.
DC
I've never been one to set by and wait for nature to determine it's whimsical cycle rates, hoping and waiting to see if the stars line up, if we're lucky, which they always do but maybe not for a hundred years or more. I prefer calculated, predictable natural cycles, created by human intervention.
DC
