Hoss,
The study I pulled was based on mammas, I also looked at deer along with other ungulates. So show nothing in nature comes close to the line we chose to manage to. Looks like your search showed the same number I came across when searching. What did you see on deer and ungulates…or was that info not enough inline with your narrative that you missed it?
Now your comparing multiple species across multiple biomes?
Dude.
SERIOUSLY. If your going to play biologist , at least understand basics.
You googled the human rate. The next few paragraphs explain the WHY.
That's always the issue with the stuff you post. You read data sets, extrapolate that to huge areas, then act like you don't get why it's not working.
Some of the best deer work in Utah, is being done on the Cache.
Here's what it's going to show. Near zero fawn recruitment.
Now, if I'm you, I see that, apply it statewide, and demand tag cuts.
An actual biologist, say on the Manti for example, will look at his roughly 80% rate, compare it to long term trends, and might, just might come up with a different number.
A biologist, might also factor in other variables.
In fact, an honest biologist will realize the data set is likely skewed because its based either from collar studies, or observational study, and both are flawed because generally, these animals are selected from concentrated populations, ie, winter grounds.
But, again, to simplify.
There are very basic principles in biological science.
You skip past all of them, cherry pick a couple, then extrapolate that across regions.
No. No amount of "professional" management will counteract loss of huge swaths in Utah to development. No amount will counteract I-15, I-84, highway 6, 40, 89.
No amount of pros will counteract complete deadzones covered in beetlekill, in your own neighborhood.
Or, we could just pretend, it's 1960, and none of that's happened.
600,000 is a pipe dream, and not one reputable biologist believes it's possible.
Its funny, you followed your dad around the state. How was biology in 1950-60 for deer.
The golden age wasn't managed into existence.
It was stumbled into.