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I'm against it only as a senior hunter. The 1X I have does seem to reduce what I can see with my naked eye and in poor light reduces what my eyes see also. I also have a peep sight on another muzzleloader and cannot see the iron sights without having reading glasses on. If I do that I cannot see...

Great pictures. Good job on what looks like a well earned, pretty bull. :)

All weapon types have undergone tremendous improvements that have extended their effective hunting ranges. Why this push to pick on one weapon? Compare today's compound bow's with their sights and releases, to Fred Bear's bare recurves. Compare today's 1,000 yard rifle/scope set/ups to a stock...

LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-14 AT 05:26PM (MST)[p] We scouted this country during the summer, located the cows and calves and made contacts with the rancher whose property the elk seemed to water and feed on during the night. He gave us permission to access any of the ranch property to hunt. We...

Cahunter, your point is right on and you have pointed out one of the many untruths told in the initial post. Don't just take the words posted and feel sorry for this guy. We had the kill shot at 230 yds. The other party was farther away than we were. I am going to respect the forum rules and...

Those of you that are blindly accepting this post as the truth should be questioning yourself and your sense of judgement and fair play. The ability of some blowhard to post anything they want as the truth is one of the reasons many of us older hunters do not post much anymore. 6chukar has not...

congrats! You must have had multiple applications on the same card??? ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

Thank you farkus. :) I sent you a PM. Your help is sure appreciated. ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

Thanks greysriver, I sent you a PM. ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

Thanks Zeke, I sent you a PM. greysriver, good for you! Now the real work starts :) Did you draw the other NR tag or are you a Utah resident? ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

Thank you Tikka, PM sent this morning. ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

NR mountain goat tag :) 14 points finally paid off!! (Also posted on the main forum) High Unitas West - any tips/advice much appreciated :) ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

Subject says it all. 14 points finally paid off. Awesome :) High Unitas West - these old legs got one more goat hunt left in them :) Any tips/advice certainly appreciated if given. thanks ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would...

Utah uses the same Fallon based company that Nevada NDOW does for it's draw. Nevada law requires draw results be posted 48 hours after the draw takes place. We used to have to wait and extra two weeks like Utah currently does. True, draw results are tentative pending actual payment, but it sure...

The states should send obummer and reid a bill for $18 billion or so. That would be fair compensation to the states for the lost revenue in big game tag sales and recreational dollars not spent. ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you...

LAST EDITED ON Feb-17-11 AT 02:27PM (MST)[p] Maybe court orders do not have to be obeyed anymore? Our President ignored 2 or 3 court orders on lifting his gulf oil drilling moratorium. He is proceeding with the "at this time" unconstitutional ruling on the mandated obamacare insurance...

Ferocious appetites: Study finds mountain lions may be eating more than previously believed By BRETT FRENCH Of The Gazette Staff The Billings Gazette | Posted: Thursday, December 9, 2010 12:30 am | (3) Comments Mountain lions were treed in the winter to capture them for collaring in the...

LAST EDITED ON Sep-29-10 AT 06:05PM (MST)[p]lbh gives you good advice. These two "toads" came from a leftover tag unit this year. A guy can spend hours researching harvest and drawing data. Then once you get your tag, :) the hardest part of the hunt is holding out long enough to find an...

Great article in the new JULY/August Muley Crazy magazine dealing with predators and their affects on mule deer. Great read, get it! It was written by Dr. Charles Kay. It fits right into the discussion we have been having. Summing it up: Lions can have a greater impact on mule deer when they...

"At the same time these lions of yours are eating all the deer... So, here are a couple things to ponder. First mountain lions love to eat mustang foals. So much so that they will suppress a population of horses if there are enough lions. The sixty four dollar question then has to be...

I'm in the same ballpark as piper, 13" and about 72-74 score. ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

"Deliberate Indifference." - you mean like the example obama is setting? ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

In Arizona - About 3,500 acres of southern Arizona have been closed off to U.S. citizens due to increased violence at the U.S.-Mexico border, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. The closed off area includes part of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge that stretches along...

Yea, LOL, now where did you request the additional predator work ?? :) ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

NVBighorn, I have not spent much time there and do not know much about it as far as lions, coyotes, chukar or deer. Around 2000 I drove the roads and scouted it a lot and the feral horses were terrible. Several waterholes I visited were coned out with a tiny pool of water in the bottom and...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-03-10 AT 09:07AM (MST)[p]Back to BRYAN_E's original post: I think he summed it up pretty well! Lots of issues, lots of data to look at on a case by case basis. Each deer herd unit has it's own priority scale of problems. Some are impacted heavily by feral horses and some are...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-02-10 AT 04:06PM (MST)[p]I know there is a TON of data to wade through when looking at the hows and whys of where the deer population stands now as compared to the 60's and 70's. I also know that many different systems have been used over the years to count deer. Is today's...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-02-10 AT 07:00AM (MST)[p]+1 on desertbonehunters post. +1 on brownie - the term I have heard used is "predator pit". Low deer numbers and high predator numbers makes recovery difficult. ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for...

I'm sure there are variations from one part of the state to the next. Government hunters in the western part of the state say they were very rare here and the harvest figures posted above seem to confirm that. As for the Rubies: I can see where areas with a lot of deer always had more lions...

sandsavage (111 posts) Jun-01-10, 12:49 PM (MST) 25. "RE: Predator control" ok this study was done in the sierras of California 12 years ago.how deos this pertain to Nevada's deer heard of today? ... makes for some solid comparison? A discussion point? Lions have not evolved much in 12...

LAST EDITED ON Jun-01-10 AT 03:54PM (MST)[p]I am with you guys, I am just a hunter that would like to know the truth behind what has happened to about half our deer. I remember the good old days when deer were abundant on habitat that looks essentially the same as it did back in the 70's and...

Here is some more reading. http://www.muledeerworkinggroup.com/Docs/Ballard_et_al_2001a.pdf ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

Here is some more reading for you. http://texnat.tamu.edu/symposia/RoleofPredatorControl/008.pdf ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

Here is a link to the last study figures. http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1644/1545-1542%282000%29081%3C0462%3ASOMDBM%3E2.0.CO%3B2?journalCode=mamm ---------------------------------------- Measure wealth by the things you have,, for which you would not take money.

I don't spend 365 days a year in the field, I take Christmas and my anniversary off :) I find way more lion kills on adult deer. But, the coyotes usually find the carcass and clean it up while the lion is away. This leaves coyote tracks everywhere so it can get confusing. Just found another...

nvthrt (44 posts) May-27-10, 09:00 PM (MST) 7. "RE: Predator control" The coyotes eat just as many grown deer as fawns. The coyote population is way out of control. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From what study did you get this information...

Results of a 7 year study on 96 deer fawns that were collared and found shortly after their death. 90 of the 96 died. 51 % by predators. 27% by coyotes and 49% by lions. In 3 years 25 does were radio collared. 12 of these does were killed by predators. 1 by coyotes and 11 by mountain lions...

Kinda like saying do you want to get stabbed by a knife or chopped with an axe. :) Both are predators. Coyotes kill a lot of fawns and lions kill a lot of both. Either way its a dead deer. I have found too many lion killed deer myself to say they only eat the sick and wounded. One great thing...

LAST EDITED ON May-26-10 AT 12:39PM (MST)[p]hogliver, They posted within 48 hours last year. It sure beats waiting until mid june and doing the credit card checks.................. Utah guys, check and see if you can get this done next year for your draw? Why wait 2 weeks for the printing of...

Non-protected - "And all species of mammals which are not classified as game, fur-bearing, protected, threatened or endangered animals. These include marmots, chipmunks, English house sparrows, starlings, porcupines, skunks, rats, moles, voles, pocket gophers." Have fun :)...