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One reason Utah should hold the draw earlier; by the time we have the draw its too dam hot to do much scouting for desert sheep. Especially in backpack units like Escalante. It would make all the difference to have the draw in April.

Hey, I liked your websight Bighorntacks. Grand Slam #911

Two rules to remember. Rule #1 Never fly after mid August or 48 hours prior to ANY big game season through the end of the year. Because there is always some big game season in progress. Rule #2 Never harass or frighten any animal from the air. To do so would violate the Federal Airborn...

Ok so as far as my post #29 the only responses I received were from Zim who noted that DWR is not bound to legally follow their own Administrative Laws and Elkfrom above who called the same Laws "guidelines" I submit that Administrative Laws cannot be enforced as crimes by the fact that they...

I know I always get a kick out of SFWs claim to be educators. So what I think SFW means is that they will be paying the 70% to themselves and will be sure to require anyone that draws a salary speak to at least one kindygarten class a year about the good things about hunting.

OK so one step further. If the law calls for a 180-20 split and the actual split is 144-56 how has the Wildlife Board not committed 74 factual material poachings by having residents hunt on nonresident tags and vice-versa. If I remember these are mandatory Felonies according to their own rules...

I am sorry for my last post. I think the bottom line is that the 200 tags raise about 8,000.00 each as essentially otherwise illegal gaming revenue, most of which is kept by SF. So the sportsman, who attend the circus,as a group, pay about 50x as much money to get their permit. It matters...

if I take $5 out of one pocket and put it in another did I make $5 or lose $5?

Hey Birdman, you are right about one thing SFW works very hard to make sure everything is legal. Do you know how they do that? They take wheelbarrows full of our conservation dollars and deliver it to their Lawyer Buddys to keep themselves out of jail. Grant Foster of Foster and Foster comes to...

AZbow,thank you for tuning me up. My copy of Boone and Crockett record book is outdated.

This is a pic of Yours Truly with the possible New World Record Coues. The buck was green scored at 162. The current world record typical is 144 and nontypical is 151...personally I dont think it will make 162. I am trying to contact the owner/hunter and have been told his name is Brian and he...

Birdman talks alot about how RMEF pulled out of Utah in the past but, fails to mention that SFW would have failed, with out the conservation and expo permits long ago.Then, Birdman talks alot about how the RMEF proposal was just speculation. Birdman, I would dare speculate or project that the...

In the Award Justification Statement you will find all kinds of nonsense. The first one I picked out was how RMEF was docked points for its Business Plan because "the proposal lacks documentation to support the claims, Does not give a detailed description of the venue, The proposal does not...

I also found it interesting that the people who made up the "Evaluation Committee" were DNR DWR folks not independent purchasers for the state.

NVBighorn, you wont catch me defending a real poacher. I will speak up against wearing the wrong color of socks counts as poaching.

Actually its not a low blow because its based on a real poaching. Birdan you should familiarize yourself with the Perjured Testimony and ethics violations of DWR Officer Chris Rehea and Tate Larsen and the dozen or so lies that were made under oath by the DWRs paid witness in my case. Then we...

Birdman, arent you a little off subject? I think everyone here on MM would like to know how much a professional poster like you gets paid? how much of the money makes it into your wallet? The subject of this post is where the money goes. Because money is going to you that should be going to...

NVbighorn, and in that lies even a bigger problem. For one a child can spot that the expense numbers the DWR publishes for projects is a complete fiction. Notice the nice round numbers, 3000 for this project 8000 for that project. That is not how any real accounts payable works. Are these just...

One of my favorite towns in Utah and its as close to the Henrys as any is Torry.

Shedy, we are not in the privileged class, we dont get to know.

More than the 10s.

Hoss, I agree with your definition of poaching the problem is the state does not. The state thinks if you scare an animal you have poached it. No need to argue with me, we agree, its the state you are arguing with. I am just the messenger.

travishunter3006, give us your definition of what poaching is? I usually rely on Webster for my definitions. According to Webster POACHING is to take game illegally. Utah DWR thinks there are 10 ways to unlawfully take. Now, if you are a fourth grader can you tell us what the 10 ways...

So in Utah You are poacher, I am a poacher, everyone is a poacher. If we make it tough on all of us how is that going to help? I vote we define a poacher as someone who causes measurable harm to wildlife, rather than someone who guts an animal.

Topgun or should I call you Bottomrung. According to you everything I have said on this thread does not make any sense. Normally when someone says such a thing, they give an example. Please tell us what is not logical.

Birdman, As I understand the 10/30/60 split is ripe with abuse. First the 10% retained by the group simply goes to themselves and is dived up anyway they want with no accountability.Some actually finds its way into your wallet doesnt it Birdman? Unlike the rest of us who post out of a love of...

I get your point Nebo12000; not all theft or wrongdoing constitutes a crime. I am not a Lawyer but my opinion is the DWR/SFW relationship is criminal in the same sense that the Olympic Bribery case was criminal. I think it is easy for example to prove the bribery component in that so many of the...

Racketeering, Diversion of public assets for personal gain, Bribery, Corruption all come to mind.

I would Email the Director if I thought he would respond with an honest answer. Certainly there are people on MM who know who penned the selection criteria. This person or persons are certainly the ones to blame for this outrageous display of corruption. Whomever penned the criteria document...

I am one who likes to call out individuals for their corruption. On threads like this most are in agreement that there is Major Corruption in the DWR/SFW relationship. To me the people who seem most responsible are Members of the selection committee for the Wildlife Board and whomever was...

one eye is right I LOL when I read the selection criteria. Criteria that only SFW could score any points under. Much like the rules of Basketball stating "when the opposing team goes to the line for foul shots, the referee shall attach a garbage can lid to the rim of the basket to ensure fair play."

Oneshot, on what basis do you think Utah needs more Game Wardens. According to their own statistics exactly 15 trophy mule deer were poached in Utah last year and 9 the year before yet Utah has 50 full time Game Wardens, Utah has 20 more Game Wardens than Nevada and the Nevada Wardens do double...

Thank You Vanilla for pointing out that NR have only been able to put in for all OIL permits for 6 years. But isnt the same thing true of ELK, Deer etc? Cant a NON Resident with Max points on Deer ELK Desert Sheep, Antelope move to Utah in year 1 draw a Henry MT Deer Tag, In year 2 draw a San...

Correct me if I am wrong but one of the problems with UFNAWS is the powers that be Namely Don Peay and Adam Bronson require Judges to tell them right from wrong. Didnt Don pull the trigger on the National FNAWS VS Grand Slam Club lawsuit and Didnt Adam Bronson get sued by Garth Carter of Huntin...

Zeke, I am pretty disappointed. I thought we agreed on everything. Please point something out that we dont agree on because I am curious now. What Zeke is talking about is How Nonresidents can apply in Utah for all OIL species and collect bonus points for all. Now we are down a tier or 2 on...

Birdmin, I am not a Lawmaker, why would I work to change the Law? Fish Pigs, Fish Cops, Bush Pigs and Conservation Officers do that. What do you mean earning points for the future? I am not an Arsekisser like you. I dont need to be validated, I dont want or need anything from anybody. I am not...

The dictionary defines odds as The Probability That Something Will Occur. So, when we look up our draw odds for hunts in Utah we expect to learn what our chances of drawing a particular permit are. But what we find is nonsense. For example; Chubs chances of drawing the lone Lockhart Basin...

Great Post! Mahoney gets it.