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    NR Elk license allocation public meetings

    Keep the NR point system with the random draw they have now. Make it a choose a weapon hunt like most other states for all elk tags (inc Gen). Adding archery only gen tags could boost the number of NR tags. Face it they want the money, we want to opportunity. Very few NR hunt with both gun...
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    Trying to find a road in unit 17

    Take a tip from that kid in India who found his home made famous in the movie Lion- Google Earth
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    Good unit for a traditional elk bowhunter?

    Also not looking for a trophy unit, any branch antlered bull is a trophy to me!
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    Good unit for a traditional elk bowhunter?

    LAST EDITED ON Mar-17-18 AT 12:03PM (MST)[p]Sorry I don't mean this be another where to apply post but I just came to the realization (after all these years of not) I should put in for a NM elk tag even of the odds are low. Thought I was going to draw WY but points keep creeping. Not all areas...
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    Wyoming wildlife managers table crossbow debate pending more information

    So what you are saying is you don't want any more resident archery tags even for harder to draw units because there will be an increase in NR tags too? Wow, my buddy in WY is right, you guys are clueless and looking for the easy way to kill elk. I guess the only real bow hunters live out of state.
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    Wyoming wildlife managers table crossbow debate pending more information

    Seems like these comments are intended to be brought to the commission, right? What I don't understand is why it's so hard to comprehend any NR tag increases or changes in types will have to start with Residents (since NR have a 16% cap). You local guys all happy with your draw odds and you...
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    Wyoming wildlife managers table crossbow debate pending more information

    >There is a maximum of 7250 >elk tags available to NR. > The only tags not >included in this count are >the type 6 tags. What is that number based on? I thought this was a % of # resident tags sold and not a hard number? If not then that's the problem. No one has considered the huge...
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    Wyoming wildlife managers table crossbow debate pending more information

    I've been hunting WY for 25 years as a NR. In that time I've seen tag demand go through the roof. Back in the day every unit that had a type 1 and 9 archery season had tons of leftover Res 9 tags that NR could get. According to you guys no resident in their right mind would apply for a type 9...
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    Wyoming wildlife managers table crossbow debate pending more information

    Do you guys even read what I posted? The success rates for bow only are lower than that of gun + bow so if you had a choose your weapon season then there could be MORE type 9 tags with the same number of type 1 w/o an increase in harvest. A lot of hunters draw type 1 tags and only hunt the bow...
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    Wyoming wildlife managers table crossbow debate pending more information

    Lets back up. I'm not really talking about current xbows use in WY other than it provides an incentive for gun hunters to hunt the bow season. I'm sure WG&F is a fine organization but they are really missing the boat with hunting trends. MY POINT was if they eliminated the ability to bow/xbow...
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    Wyoming wildlife managers table crossbow debate pending more information

    It's difficult for WY to judge the impact from xbows because they've been legal for so long, so even though hunting in WI is different hunters in general are not. WF&G is looking at the future but this discussion should also include current impacts of xbows and technology. The article below...
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    Wyoming wildlife managers table crossbow debate pending more information

    If you guys want data indicating that crossbows are detrimental look at WI. The harvest data shows how much more effective crossbows are than compound bows. Last time I looked crossbows where killing the same number of bucks as bows but with only 1/3 of the number of hunters. Sure the number of...
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    Wy gmu 41

    LAST EDITED ON Jan-11-18 AT 11:03AM (MST)[p]Hunters look at 41 and think it's like 40 or 45, but it's not. The only real access for 41 is one road the runs just below the wilderness. So there's less than a mile uphill to hunt. Down slope there's not much either before you drop below the tree...
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    tag question jan to dec?

    WI solved the print your own tag problem by eliminating the tag entirely. It's a poachers dream.
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    Gunnison Winter Info

    Any idea on number of elk licenses in those zones?
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    Elk population unit 4

    A buddy shot up deer up there last year that was positive for CWD (and looked like it too). I would be more worried about that.
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    Rise in NW CWD reports causing concern...

    That's a pretty stupid statement by CPW. CWD is a progressive disease. It's also density dependent. Infection rates on game farms is upwards of 80%. There WILL be long term (possibly permanent) impacts on hunting if nothing is done...
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    Come on WY!

    The Wyoming Game and Fish Department License Draw and Preference Point Inquiry System is currently being loaded for the scheduled February 25 10am MDT Draw Release
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    Wyoming elk unit 45

    In Unit 41 as a NR you only have narrow strip along the road running just below the wilderness boundary which btw is where most hunters camp (inc residents). It gets crowded outside the wilderness (and inside in places too). There's a reason why it takes more points to draw 45. I'm hoping to...
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    Bowhunt Elk with 3 Pts Ideas?

    There's no backpacking in 41 w/o a guide. It's 1 mile or less from a road to wilderness across the entire unit. And a lot of residents hunt along the roads too. 38/39 have NR backpacking options. So do the general units (36/37). 3 points is kind of a no mans land in WY so it depends on how...
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    Shell Lease In NW Co

    LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-15 AT 11:37AM (MST)[p] And this is our future if the far right politicians get elected and turn over public lands to the states.
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    New Colorado Hunting Statistics Format

    Easily understandable information is a double edge sword...
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    Fish License Ripoff fer Real???

    I might be losing my memory but in years past the one of the options for not drawing was to ask for a PP. I didn't see that in the online application. So it seems they make you by a PP if you don't draw. Probably doesn't matter in most cases. But now they have an option for the second...
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    Draw results

    Is this an all at one time deal or will cards be hit over the next few days? I'm still holding out hope...
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    Crow Indian Warden cited for Poaching in Wyoming

    Holy crap, who knew that stupid idea by Bud Grant and his buddies to challenge native rights in MN would come into play in WY.
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    Silent calling

    This is done by 98% of elk hunters everywhere.
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    Anyone else get charged 3x by AZ F&G?

    I only applied for 1 elk license for myself. I haven't seen anything that says they are taking care of it (or even aware of it), so do I file a claim with my credit card company? I think I have only a week or so before the bill is due to file a claim.
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    Anyone else get charged 3x by AZ F&G?

    Either I'm the only one or you guys haven't checked your statements?
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    Anyone else get charged 3x by AZ F&G?

    I see on my credit card statement 3 charges for $15 on 2/11 by the Fish and Game when I (we) had issues applying. I thought they had it all figured out and refunded the extra charges? So do I now have to endure hours on hold to get this resolved? They better give me a tag for all this crap.
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    AZ Online App hosed again

    Its still down right now. One question, it asked for a dept ID #. I bought a license last month and there is no ID#, just a licence #. I tried to use my SS # in the application, I take it that's not the issue? The website says if I bought a hunting license at a vendor I was issued a dept...
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    Unit 40

    Why would 40 be a horseback unit when it contains no wilderness? Maybe a 4x4 or ATV is needed to access some areas. The Bighorns are not that remote and the unit isn't that big, and any place a horse can go you can. Even so you can call an outfitter to pack out an animal if needed, you don't...
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    Non-Premier Archery NR Elk or Deer areas?

    Some of those units have draw odds around 25%, are you saying these are impossible to draw, or not worth it?
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    Non-Premier Archery NR Elk or Deer areas?

    I just found out I have a work conference in Phoenix this Sept 14-17 which ruins my plans to draw for a limited CO elk tag. AZ is too far of a drive so I've never considered it before, but I'm looking at hunting opportunities as long as I'm there and the transportation is free! The regs are a...
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    elk unit 40 or 41 archery

    41 has a lot of type 1 cow tags too, so there will be more hunters after 9/15 than the numbers listed above. 45 is worth it if you can draw in the special drawing, especially for a NR. That is one huge unit with a lot more access points and non-wilderness areas than 41. There's 38 and 39 too...
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    Interesting Read on WY Game and Fish

    Problem is most hunters don't vote based on what's best for hunting, which really spans both R and L. We are told to vote R because those guys are for guns and our rights. Yet we also need clean water, land and money for management. It's a screwed up system because many don't think they just...
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    Leftovers

    The list is up, but only 3 areas have archery elk tags? Is that right? Last year there were a lot more.
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    Quota on elk units?

    >With the big change made in >units for this season there >is no way before the >draw that tag numbers will >be known if you put >in for one of them. What are you referring too? The 2014 application book only has minor changes for this year. Are you talking something else?
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    Unit 45 Elk Hunt

    I agree, they do this to divert attention away from their honey holes to increase their odds. Also when I read their suggestions for those units that I an familiar with they are not very accurate, which means I won't pay much attention to their advice for those areas I don't know. You are...
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    Unit 45 Elk Hunt

    I was there 2 years ago, NR DIY solo archery. It's a big unit, and very popular with hikers in Sept, and resident hunters after 9/15. What freaked me out are the boulder fields. I'm talking Volkswagen size boulders and bigger. Not the safest thing to cross, especially alone (or in bad...
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    New 5 year structure

    I won't hunt any OTC for archery elk anymore. The # of hunters was up 20% more than the last time I went a few years ago, and it keeps going up. The quality of the hunt is really bad now because they sell too many tags, I saw more hunters than elk after packing in 4 miles this year! Never...
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